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Rebecca Giblin on chokepoint capitalism

By Jake Edge
March 29, 2023

Everything Open

The fourth and final keynote for Everything Open 2023 was given by Professor Rebecca Giblin of the Melbourne Law School, University of Melbourne. It revolved around her recent book, Chokepoint Capitalism, which she wrote with Cory Doctorow; it is "a book about why creative labor markets are rigged — and how to unrig them". Giblin had planned to be in Melbourne to give her talk in person, but "the universe had other plans"; she got delayed in Austin, Texas by an unexpected speaking slot at the South by Southwest (SXSW) conference, so she gave her talk via videoconference from there—at nearly midnight in Austin.

She began by playing the animated teaser video for the book. It describes how the tech and content firms are choking out competition so that they can take the lion's share of any revenue generated before it ever reaches the artists and others who actually did the creative work. The book also has lots of ideas for "how we can recapture creative labor markets to make them fairer and more sustainable", Giblin said in the video.

[Rebecca Giblin]

The book had its genesis in a taxi ride across Melbourne that Doctorow and Giblin took in February 2017. They did not know each other well at that point, but they realized they had a shared vision based on their experiences in the "copyright wars". There is a position being pushed that if you want modifications to the current copyright regime it means "that you hate artists and want them to starve", but it is a false dichotomy.

Flash forward three years after the taxi ride and she was locked down in her apartment in Melbourne; while that was the opposite of freedom in lots of ways, she "decided to take it as a moment of freedom". Normally her work schedule is filled up a few years in advance, she is applying for grants for what she will be doing in four years' time, and so on; "COVID threw that all up in the air".

She quickly realized that what she wanted to do with that time was to tackle the problem of "how big business has stolen creative labor markets and all that we can do to take them back". She worked on it for a few weeks, but it was difficult because she had no one to bounce ideas off of; "I'm just arguing with myself". One day, she thought: "you know what would be better?—if Cory Doctorow wrote this book with me", she said to laughter.

So she sent Doctorow an email and asked if he wanted to write this book with her; "that's a thing you can do, you can write to Cory Doctorow and say 'write a book with me' and he'll say 'yes'", she said to even more merriment. She cautioned that Doctorow was not entirely on board with her joke; "if he were here, he would say 'please don't do that'". But she happened to hit a good time in Doctorow's schedule; working on the book with him was her "lifeline to the outside world during six long Melbourne lockdowns".

Audiblegate

They started looking at the different creative labor markets, since they were mostly only personally familiar with the book industry, and realized that those industries "are all using the same playbook". One of the more egregious examples of that playbook is in the "Audiblegate" scandal, which Giblin said should be far better known than it is. As might be guessed from the name, it involves the Audible audiobook company, which is part of Amazon and the largest vendor of audiobooks in the world.

Audible treats its customers well, with various perks for signing up for a monthly membership. One of those perks is the no-questions-asked return policy that allows readers to buy a book with their monthly credit and then return it for a new credit. Audible gives lots of opportunities to take advantage of that; it is mentioned in an email and app popup when the book is finished, is easily available on the web site, and so on.

Lots of Audible members started treating Audible as a lending library, rather than as a way to purchase audiobooks. The return offer was good for up to a year, so it was often the case that people listened to the book, enjoyed it, and returned it anyway. What they did not realize was that each of those returns would claw back the royalty paid to the author (and others) for that book.

Many authors suspected that kind of thing was happening, but the reporting from Audible did not separately account for returns—it only reported net sales. In October 2020, though, there was a reporting glitch and three weeks of returns data showed up in the authors' accounts. Suddenly authors could see that their books—many quite highly rated—were being returned in enormous numbers. Meanwhile, Audible (thus Amazon) keeps taking in the monthly fee from subscribers.

Amazon has been the master of this playbook, she said; the company even made a diagram to describe it. She showed two minutes from a longer promotional video (starting at the one-minute mark) that she and Doctorow made, which describes the Amazon "flywheel" that the company touts, while exposing what is really going on under the covers. As described by the company, the basic idea is that lower costs lead to lower prices, thus a better customer experience. That, in turn, means that there is more traffic, which attracts more sellers, leading to better selection, which improves the customer experience even more—"and the cycle continues". Amazon calls it a "virtuous cycle", but "it is not 'virtuous', it's anti-competitive", Doctorow said in the video.

What's really happening is that Amazon has always focused on locking in its customers, for example by using DRM on ebooks and audiobooks, "which cements users to Kindle and Audible". Another lock-in is the fast, free shipping it offers to Prime members; "once you pay your annual fee, Amazon becomes your default whenever you need to buy something". Locking in customers allows Amazon to lock in its suppliers as well. Publishers and small businesses cannot afford to give up access to those customers, so they keep listing their goods at Amazon even when it is bad for the business long-term. The lower cost structure that Amazon talks about is "just a euphemism for shaking down its suppliers and workers"; it uses its market power to demand discounts and high fees from those other businesses.

Amazon then uses the money it squeezed out to subsidize prices in order to eliminate competitors who actually pay fairly. As time goes on, that means Amazon's suppliers have even less choice about acceding to its demands; the low prices bring in even more customers who get locked in. "The shakedown grows more merciless and damaging as Amazon's flywheel spins faster and gains ever-more momentum."

After the video snippet, Giblin said that "all of the companies that we look at in the course of the book are doing exactly the same thing". They lock in their users and suppliers, which they can do, in part, because they got lots of "sweet, sweet VC [venture capitalist] dollars with the promise that they will chokepoint their industries" eventually, in order to eliminate competition.

Amazon once spent up to $200-million in a single month when diapers.com looked like it might be a threat in the market for baby diapers, she said. That may sound like an expensive way to corner the diaper ("nappy") market, but it is actually a "very very cheap way of sending a signal" that you are willing to use scorched-earth tactics. For that reason, VCs will not enter the "kill zone of Amazon and these other giants" because they know they will lose everything if a giant "decides that their toes are being stepped on".

Competition?

"Say what you like about capitalism, but competition is supposed to be fundamental to it", Giblin said. What we have seen over the last 40 years is a systematic effort to eliminate competition and enable these chokepoints to form. That came about because of a radical reinterpretation of antitrust law in the US, promulgated by Robert Bork, which said that those laws were not aimed at protecting competition, but were instead targeting consumer welfare. The upshot is that if a single company is dominating a market, it is not an antitrust problem unless consumers are somehow harmed, such as by price increases.

The ideal was that companies that were able to gain a market advantage of that sort would only do so temporarily until a competitor was attracted to the market by the profits being generated. Unfortunately, the 40-year project has successfully found ways to turn these "temporary" advantages into enduring ones. She put up a quote from Peter Thiel ("Competition is for losers."), noting that "they say the quiet part out loud, there's a shamelessness to it [...] 'why would you get into a market where you have to compete?'" Similarly, Warren Buffett is enamored with businesses that have "wide, sustainable moats, so in other words, barriers that stop new competitors from entering the market".

These problems are not only caused by monopolies, but also by monopsonies, which is a lesser-known and sometimes harder to grasp term. For one thing, there is no "family-destroying board game" by that name. Monopsony is the flipside to monopoly; instead of sellers that are overly powerful, a monopsony is made up of buyers that are overly powerful. In Australia, a good example is the two main grocery-store chains that have vast amounts of power compared to the farmers and food producers (other than perhaps the huge multinational producers) that want to sell to them.

So when people started looking at antitrust in this new way, they came to an obvious conclusion: monopoly pricing will hurt consumers, thus get them into trouble, but monopsony buying will not. If the only way to get in trouble is to raise prices for consumers, then the rational thing to do is to "look at the other end of the chain and find ways to squeeze your workers and your suppliers".

The tools used to create the chokepoints are different for the various content industries, but the end result of them being established is the same. Doctorow has coined a new term for this, she said, "which I really love": "enshittification".

Platforms start by directing their services to users in order to attract as many as possible. That leads suppliers to the platform so that they can reach those users. The platforms also start catering to the suppliers, at the expense of the users who are now firmly entrenched. Eventually, the platform finds ways to exploit the suppliers as well—full-on enshittification—putting all of the profits from both sides into the pockets of investors.

"The aim of enshittification is to make the service of the platform as bad as you can but just before the line where people just throw up their hands and give up on it altogether." We are seeing this play out in realtime at Twitter right now, though she thinks "Elon may be on the wrong side of the line", so we may be seeing the final stage: "enshittification death".

What to do?

Giblin said that they were determined that the book "was not going to be yet another 'chapter 11 book'", where there are ten chapters that lay out all of the problems in "excruciating detail" followed by a single chapter that handwaves at some solutions. For her, one unexpected reaction to the book has been readers who report that the first part, where the problems are described, is "utterly rage-inducing"; she has been looking at the problems for so long that she is inured to them to some extent at this point. Some readers may set the book aside (or throw it at the wall) in that first part, but she encourages people to read on, because the second half is all about solutions, which is what she wanted to focus on for the rest of the talk.

Those solutions would generally be aimed at the creative industries, but she invited attendees to look at ways to apply the same kinds of techniques to other types of industries where these schemes are also being deployed. "The 'open ethos' has a lot to teach us about how we can defeat chokepoint capitalism", Giblin said.

Transparency is one of the core values of the free and open-source software (FOSS) movement, but it is also key to other movements, such as open education, open government, open data, and more. Going back to Audiblegate, it is that mistaken revelation of the return numbers that provided the catalyst for the authors to take action, because they no longer only suspected what was going on, they now had hard evidence of it. That small glimmer of light on the underlying data, which Amazon was systematically trying to conceal from the authors, was enough to galvanize authors into action.

That led to an effective campaign to get the word out in the author community. It led Colleen Cross, a former forensic accountant turned author of financial-fraud thrillers, to look into the contracts for the Audible platform, which are deliberately opaque and confusing. She worked out that Audible could not possibly be paying out what they were supposed to be paying to independent authors; "the numbers just didn't add up in a way that that could have been plausible".

For the book, Doctorow and Giblin asked Cross how much money there is at stake; she estimates that there is "hundreds of millions of dollars on the return scam alone" plus an "enormous amount of wage theft". Based on Cross's best information, she thinks that up to 87% of the money paid in for access to Audible audiobooks is going to the platform, so that leaves just 13% to the authors and narrators. It is, of course, not clear whether that's the case because Amazon will not provide that information. "Why won't they? Because 'fuck you', that's why", Giblin said. "They don't have to and they benefit from that lack of transparency."

It is not just Amazon. The major streaming platforms, the major record labels, and others conceal their data from the artists. At a SXSW panel the previous day, a songwriter was describing her royalty statement; "it was 3000 pages long and utterly incomprehensible". This opacity only benefits the record labels, because even if there is only an "honest" mistake, there is no way for the artist to detect it—and the history of outright fraud is vast. One LA-based auditing firm that they talked to for the book had done tens of thousands of audits, mostly of record labels, which had "only once found an error that was in the artist's favor—some kind of isolated probability storm going on there".

Transparency is required for things that might affect investors; companies have all sorts of reporting obligations for things that might affect the stock price, for example. But there are no transparency requirements for artists whose paycheck, effectively, is determined by this opaque accounting. The reason is obvious, and is the same as it always is: "the purpose of the system, as Stafford Beer says, is what it does". Whenever we want to understand why something works the way that it does despite really obvious shortcomings, "the trick is to look at who's winning—and who's losing".

There are some changes that will help to introduce transparency in these markets. In 2019, the EU introduced the Directive on Copyright in the Digital Single Market, which mandates that artists and performers get new rights to find out how their works are being used, how much revenue is being generated from them, and how their share is calculated. Implementation is tricky because each member state is being aggressively lobbied to sidestep the transparency requirements, but it is a step in the right direction, Giblin said.

Interoperability, equity, and more

Another important aspect of the "open" movements is interoperability, which will be critical to defeating chokepoint capitalism. DRM is obviously a tool for locking customers in. Audible requires that all of its audiobooks have DRM, which is why Chokepoint Capitalism was not released there; it is available on all of the other audiobook platforms, however. There is a small part of it available on Audible, though; "we packaged the standalone chapter about their [Audible's] terrible, terrible abuses", she said to laughter and applause. They were surprised that they sold a few hundred copies of that, which she feels a little bad about. They did much the same with the Spotify chapter from the book on that platform.

Nobody wants to split up their libraries, just as they do not want to split up their friend group. Leaving Facebook means you risk losing access to your social and communication networks. She has not been on Facebook since around 2008; "there's a lot of barbecues that you end up just not knowing about".

We need more than just the right to bypass DRM, however, she said. We need positive rights as well; rights of access and the freedom to exit a sinking platform while continuing to stay connected to the community you are leaving behind. That means you can still enjoy the media and data you bought and have access to the content you created.

The open ethos has a strong focus on equity, Giblin said; there's little room for predatory middlemen that sit between creators and audiences—or buyers and sellers. Open access promotes equity without regard to socioeconomic standing, which is something that is lacking in the creative industries. There are only a few superstars who have the standing to negotiate equitable contracts (e.g. Taylor Swift in the music industry). The EU directive provides some hope in the form of a kind of "minimum wages for creative workers" in the form of rights to reasonable remuneration. In the new Australian cultural policy there is talk of giving creative workers employment rights in order to "treat arts workers as real workers", which is also a good step.

Many creative workers, as well as programmers, are required to sign away their copyrights to their employer, but the copyrights last for three generations or more, which is nearly always well beyond the life of the commercial interest in the work. The EU has a "use it or lose it" policy that allows creators to claw back their copyright if the work is not in use. That can help maintain access to works that have gone out of print, for example, as is being done by another project she worked on during lockdown: Untapped.

Self-determination is a critical aspect of the open ethos; people can look inside and tinker with things to make them work in ways that are better for them. The corporations that are chokepointing their industries "are deliberately depriving us of the ability to do exactly that", by locking us into their walled gardens and eliminating competition that might provide us with other choices that might work better for our needs, she said. "If we've learned anything from the open movement it's that people have a lot of very different needs."

Giblin does not think humans are good at "figuring out what are the conditions for a good life"; if we were, "we would definitely not have email", she said to laughter. There is an apocryphal idea that frogs will not jump out of a slowly warming pot of water before they get boiled to death—it's not true for frogs, but she is not so sure for humans. It seems clear that too much of our lives are not being spent on making things work well so that we can flourish as people, but is instead spent on maximizing profits for investors. The ability to change those conditions "seems critical to widening chokepoints out".

The part of the book on "collectivity" was her favorite "and certainly the most inspiring and hopeful part". There are multiple stories that they found about powerless people collectively taking on and even flipping the tables on the powerful corporations that they were locked into. For example, Uber drivers were contractually barred from bringing class-action lawsuits against the company, which meant they had to bring financially impractical individual suits or use the mandatory arbitration offered by the company. That kind of arbitration works well for companies when there are just a few cases, but thousands of drivers all brought complaints at the same time, forcing the company to eventually settle with the drivers—probably for more money than if it had been a class action.

The 2019 Writers Guild of America strike was another example of collectivity at work. Four large agencies had cornered the market on Hollywood writers, but were "feathering their own nests" at the expense of the creators they were supposed to represent. The writers realized that the agents only had the power that the writers gave them; "you can have Hollywood without agents, but you can't have Hollywood without writers". In a single week, 7000 writers fired their agents; the strike ended up lasting 22 months, but eventually "everyone rolled over" and the onerous terms were eliminated.

Movement

The open movement is broad and encompasses disparate areas like software, government, education, hardware, access to collections in museums and libraries, and more, all of which were represented at Everything Open in various ways. She believes that the open movement needs to see itself as part of an even larger movement against corporate concentration; "this too is part of the same fight".

The "strip mining of creative workers" is part of a larger project "in service of oligarchy"; it is something we are all subject to, she said. "It's not just independent creators and producers who are being screwed over here", it is nearly everyone; "if they haven't come for you yet, it's just because they haven't had time". There is a part near the end of the book where it says that the tech industry treats its workers well, because it has to; once those conditions change, the techies will find themselves in the same position as the creative workers. That feels a bit prescient, Giblin said, given the large layoffs that have rolled through the tech world since the book was written. "We're all part of the same fight."

She is often asked: "How do we start to change?" It feels like a huge project, which is "absolutely right". If you want to get to a "sustainable, fair world where there is enough for everybody" versus "violent extraction by a very few over the very many", you "wouldn't start from here, but we have to start from here, and we are starting from here". One key piece is already underway, which is to "build connection and community".

The current system is "designed to isolate us from one another", so that we have that "hollow emptiness inside of us" and we will want to fill it with ever-more production and consumption. That's not a bug of the system, it's a feature, she said. Building community and understanding how others' fights fit in with your own are "the first bites toward eating the elephant". She said that she is grateful for everyone who is working on the many different parts of the problem, including by attending the conference to see where those parts are and how they fit together. There was a lengthy round of applause for Giblin and her talk.

It was a thought-provoking keynote that will likely resonate, at least in parts, with many. While Giblin seemed optimistic about finding our way out of this hole that we have dug for ourselves, some may have to be forgiven for despairing of seeing any substantial progress in the near, or even distant, future. Beyond that, some, perhaps many, people see things rather differently than she does, so they may find her analysis and prescriptions to be off the mark. The video of her keynote is available for anyone who wants to delve into her ideas more deeply.

[Thanks to LWN subscribers for supporting my travel to Melbourne for Everything Open.]

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Rebecca Giblin on chokepoint capitalism

Posted Mar 29, 2023 22:58 UTC (Wed) by archaic (subscriber, #111970) [Link] (32 responses)

I am a subscriber to LWN because I like to follow news about open source software, not because I like to follow political activism campaigns that attempt to piggyback (very loosely) on some ethereal ideals and concepts that many in open source software also liken themselves to.

Rebecca Giblin on chokepoint capitalism

Posted Mar 29, 2023 23:25 UTC (Wed) by tohojo (subscriber, #86756) [Link] (1 responses)

Well I, for one, consider this entirely on topic, and I'm delighted to see it covered here and at such length!

Rebecca Giblin on chokepoint capitalism

Posted Mar 31, 2023 8:42 UTC (Fri) by ale2018 (guest, #128727) [Link]

> Well I, for one, consider this entirely on topic, and I'm delighted to see it covered here and at such length!

Me too. This is one of the articles I enjoyed best. Feeling that my effort as a programmer to increase openness of my little turf is part of a wider movement, and gathering the overall political implications are good motivators and good value for the cost of my subscription.

Rebecca Giblin on chokepoint capitalism

Posted Mar 29, 2023 23:32 UTC (Wed) by corbet (editor, #1) [Link] (2 responses)

We're sorry if you didn't like the article. We wrote it because we thought it was relevant and worth thinking about. Rest assured that the next few days will be focused on the grungy issues of project governance and technical design that have been at the core of LWN's work for over two decades.

Rebecca Giblin on chokepoint capitalism

Posted Mar 30, 2023 11:24 UTC (Thu) by lobachevsky (subscriber, #121871) [Link]

I for one welcome this article and articles like it. Free software has always been political and this is just as much on topic as deeply technical discussions.

Rebecca Giblin on chokepoint capitalism

Posted Mar 31, 2023 21:33 UTC (Fri) by tonyblackwell (guest, #43641) [Link]

A superb summary, very well written, covering stuff central to "open" wishes for our future. My hat off to Jake for crafting this, both for its own sake and for broadening LWN's coverage of our world beyond its often very-narrow focus on the minutiae of kernel internals.

Rebecca Giblin on chokepoint capitalism

Posted Mar 29, 2023 23:55 UTC (Wed) by motk (guest, #51120) [Link] (2 responses)

Nah, this is pretty good stuff. You can't libertarian yourself out of enshittification.

Rebecca Giblin on chokepoint capitalism

Posted Mar 30, 2023 12:51 UTC (Thu) by kpfleming (subscriber, #23250) [Link]

This statement wins the Internet. Game over.

Rebecca Giblin on chokepoint capitalism

Posted Apr 3, 2023 0:43 UTC (Mon) by marcH (subscriber, #57642) [Link]

It's no surprise that Libertarianism is especially strong in the USA: this is where "David vs Goliath" myths and cults of many world-saving heroes (fictional and not) are the strongest. Hollywood stories do reflect the specific culture they come from, the one where parents tell their kids that "anything is possible".

So it's no surprise either that monopolies, monopsonies and "chokepoint capitalism"strive here. Designing regulations that can tame them and maintain some competition is really difficult and can indeed backfire, so why bother when you can just wait for David Libertarian to show up and "disrupt" the oligarchy? Like in the movies.

Rebecca Giblin on chokepoint capitalism

Posted Mar 30, 2023 0:26 UTC (Thu) by ras (subscriber, #33059) [Link] (4 responses)

> political activism campaigns

I was at the talk, and yes, it was about a political activism campaign, created in response to the negative effects of a monopsony on some people. I think you are right in saying it didn't have much to do with open source directly.

But those monopsonies were made possible by advancements in the last two decades made by computers and communications (the internet), and such advancements are built largely on the back of open source plus a layer of proprietary glue and candy. I found this explanation of the left field effects on society created by what is effectively both my profession and my hobby to be both unexpected and enlightening.

But more to the point, while it is true to say it didn't have much to do with "open source" directly, if you remove just one word, "source", then what's left ("openness" or "transparency") turned out to be very relevant. The companies went to great lengths to hide what their systems/algorithms were in their proprietary software. Only when that was stripped away (by what was effectively an unintentional data leak by the companies themselves), did the politics kick in.

Effectively the companies are using the monopsonies they built to redirect money from the supplies to their shareholders. I don't want moral discussions about whether that is fair or not here. What is interesting to me is that while the large reduction in money paid to the suppliers has been self-evident for a long while, it didn't trigger much of a reaction in society as a whole. I presume that was because most assumed it was just the market being efficient or something else people found morally acceptable. It was only after a light was shone on the mechanism they were using to do the redirect that this political movement took off. Thus, the political activism we are seeing is a direct effect of "openness". I suspect that will resonate with many here, just as it did at Everything Open.

Rebecca Giblin on chokepoint capitalism

Posted Mar 30, 2023 0:48 UTC (Thu) by khim (subscriber, #9252) [Link] (3 responses)

> I think you are right in saying it didn't have much to do with open source directly.

It may not affect open source directly, but it's very relevant indirectly.

If you look on what these companies doing while building these moats you'll see that majority of huge open source projects (Android and Chrome, Linux kernel and React and lots of other tools) are created as part of effort of building these.

And there, too, we observe similar effects: independent makers (like Firefox, e.g.) just couldn't compete.

What to do about that? Is it Ok to have just one browser because no one but some largest companies can build anything comparable (and even they need to cooperate)?

It's extremely tricky question because alternative to these open core offers would have been purely closed offerings from Microsoft and Oracle, not plethora of open-source competition!

It it bad thing? Is it good thing? I honestly don't know.

In essence Linux Kernel (as it exists today) is something these huge companies built together to ensure that none of competitions (neither large nor small) can use better OS kernel to outcompete them… but as a result they also ensured that, basically, every “mom and pop” shop can also use one of the best OS kernels… for free.

I wonder if books tries to address that part of the story. It's much less clear-cut than these attempts to rob audiobook authors from their income.

Rebecca Giblin on chokepoint capitalism

Posted Mar 30, 2023 7:20 UTC (Thu) by mfuzzey (subscriber, #57966) [Link]

>In essence Linux Kernel (as it exists today) is something these huge companies built together

Yes I think the good part of the Linux model is that while the modern Linux kernel is definitely built by corporation funded developers the corporations themselves have relatively little control over development itself. That power lies with maintainers who, while generally also corporate employees themselves, can quite easilly switch if needed.

Sure the companies get to choose which parts of the kernel the people they employ work on and will logically favour areas that are useful to them but they are not the judges of what is accepted technically so you don't get the quality / time to market compromises so frequent in proprietary software.

The Linux model has found a way of harnessing the financial resources of corporations to ensure plenty of developer time (without which it is difficult to scale beyond a few people scratching their own itch) but without handing effective control to them with all the downsides that go with that.

But, unfortunately, I don't think the model is generally applicable, it only really works for really foundational bedrock things like the kernel where companies can be convinced to cooperate rather than compete.

Rebecca Giblin on chokepoint capitalism

Posted Mar 30, 2023 13:33 UTC (Thu) by nim-nim (subscriber, #34454) [Link] (1 responses)

> If you look on what these companies doing while building these moats you'll see that majority of huge open source projects (Android and Chrome, Linux kernel and React and lots of other tools) are created as part of effort of building these.

Actually, most of those huge open source projects are built over huge pre-existing free software components, and those megacorps are using the very same playbook described in the article to corner those too, by coopting key players, and burying the free software core bellow a layer they have total control of (typically by promoting “open source” over “free software”, “service” over “protocol”, “static builds” and “vendoring” over “dynamic substitutable linking”).

Those all make it easier to capture and control access to the “free software” stack that enabled them to build their wares.

Rebecca Giblin on chokepoint capitalism

Posted Mar 30, 2023 13:48 UTC (Thu) by nim-nim (subscriber, #34454) [Link]

If I may add, “static builds”, “vendoring”, “image-based” deployments are all part of an even older playbook the megacorps are all too happy to recycle. By making any replacement an all or nothing thing, that mixes open, free and closed components in an unscrutable messy blob, the bar for replacement and substitution is raised above the capabilities of most competitors.

The previous generation of software giants understood it very well, and they played the anticompetitive complexity game till they choked on needless complexity added just to corner the market, and were unseated by simpler free software alternatives.

The current generation of software giants are busy re-complexifying their solutions to lock down the market and close the free software capabilities that enabled them to rise in the first place.

Rebecca Giblin on chokepoint capitalism

Posted Mar 30, 2023 0:29 UTC (Thu) by dskoll (subscriber, #1630) [Link] (1 responses)

This is relevant to software developers too, whom I consider to be creative laborers.

Google and Apple have chokepoints on software that they permit to run on their devices. Sony and Microsoft have similar chokepoints over their gaming consoles. The fact that general-purpose PCs, especially those running Linux, don't have such chokepoints is likely seen as a bug by corporations who would almost certainly love to change that.

In an anticompetitive market, free software will die because monopolies will have the power they need to kill it.

Rebecca Giblin on chokepoint capitalism

Posted Apr 20, 2023 14:44 UTC (Thu) by immibis (subscriber, #105511) [Link]

The war on general-purpose computers is absolutely not new, and has been covered on LWN before. It mostly centers around Secure Boot / TPM functionality. Microsoft very nearly succeeded in winning this war. They may still do so.

Rebecca Giblin on chokepoint capitalism

Posted Mar 30, 2023 1:40 UTC (Thu) by hDF (subscriber, #121224) [Link]

I expected the worst when opening this article, but was pleasantly surprised. There's no culture war noise, just a discussion on how our industry affects the rest of the world. Something to think about for when tech recruiters ask you to come "change the world" with them.

Rebecca Giblin on chokepoint capitalism

Posted Mar 30, 2023 10:31 UTC (Thu) by paulj (subscriber, #341) [Link]

This article is about free market failures, induced by confluence of technology and copyright, affecting creative workers everywhere - including tech workers. Seems very on-topic to me. And free market failures arising out of predatory behaviour by large companies who built monopolies or monopsonies should be a concern to everyone, whether right-wing or left-wing.

Rebecca Giblin on chokepoint capitalism

Posted Mar 30, 2023 14:41 UTC (Thu) by bferrell (subscriber, #624) [Link]

I have a somewhat dislike of CD... BUT, while he's involved in the book, the article is incredibly on-topic and calling it "political activism" is a bit like Wernher von Braun saying "WWII rockets were very successful, they just landed in the wrong place". Opensource/Linux has been key in proliferation these types of "societal weapons".

Yes, the entertainment industry was infamous for their creative book keeping almost from the start but due to technological constraints, was somewhat contained (proliferation/distribution was expensive; micropayments not possible due to that expense). Micro-pay is key to all of this and the volumes involved make hiding the details easy.

The mantra of "move fast/disrupt/break things" allows for even more lack of responsibility in the area.

FOSS/freedom is about about the impact that freedom has on the world around us, not just the freedom to code what you want.



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Posted Mar 30, 2023 16:16 UTC (Thu) by jschrod (subscriber, #1646) [Link]

It's quite simple - if the topic doesn't interest you, well, then don't read the article!

But don't tell us others, who find this article about usage consequences of technology to the point and fitting for the topics that LWN.net covers, that it shall not be here.

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Posted Mar 30, 2023 21:34 UTC (Thu) by flussence (guest, #85566) [Link] (1 responses)

Hand waving this away as “politics”, i.e. forgiving Amazon for the same crooked demeanour Microsoft had in the 90s and which it *has been doing* in the tech industry (keyword: AGPL3), does not sit right with me. There's something insidious in the current state of civilization about tech sector people who fixate on Technology™ as an imagined self-sustaining concept in a context-free vacuum, a perpetual motion machine of thinkpieces that don't require one to think, who then balk in disgust at anyone who dares to lay bare the consequences all this has on real people. Never *at* the consequences. It's why the FSF has been an ineffectual joke for most of its existence.

I'd rather read things like this than the next instalment of the 10,000-comment systemd soap opera. That, to me, is also politics: a bunch of incredibly boring talking heads loudly incorrecting each other over something of infinitesimal consequence. Computing as a two-way medium is inherently political; I for one would rather see politics that try to *do* something than surrender the stage to a crowd that gets violent in a 16th-century way over ini files on their hard disk.

That comment could be posted verbatim under an article about codes of conduct and be no less semantically valid. The tone and intent would be a lot less ambiguous though. Would you feel comfortable doing that?

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Posted Mar 31, 2023 12:28 UTC (Fri) by farnz (subscriber, #17727) [Link]

I would just like to note that one workable definition of "politics" is "the way people relate to perceived groupings of other people". FOSS is full of "perceived groupings of other people" (kernel developers, GNOME developers, Debian users, Gentoo users, Freedom-maximalists, systemd lovers, systemd haters and more), and thus politics is an inevitable part of FOSS.

In turn, this means that attacking something as "politics" is basically a short hand for "you disagree with my classification of people into groups and/or my expectation of how those groups should behave", and is therefore not useful feedback. It's better to identify what specifically you object to.

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Posted Mar 31, 2023 8:34 UTC (Fri) by ballombe (subscriber, #9523) [Link] (7 responses)

This is extremely relevant to 'Open Source'.
GIt was designed as a distributed system where everybody could publish with just a website.
Github redefined GIT as a client server system when they own all the servers.
Even when one keeps a server, the pressure from the community to host the project on github is enormous.
The e14n of github has already started with compulsory participation to Copilot.
In some way we are back to 1989 when Microsoft controlled all usable software by controlling the OS.

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Posted Apr 3, 2023 9:53 UTC (Mon) by kleptog (subscriber, #1183) [Link] (6 responses)

>GIt was designed as a distributed system where everybody could publish with just a website.

>Github redefined GIT as a client server system when they own all the servers.

Git never changed, it's still a distributed system. The problem is that it's not enough to develop an actual product. Git has no features to track reviews, for example. You may need to designate a branch as "authoritative" and then apply permission to control that, Git doesn't provide any help in that area. That's by design, it describes itself as a "stupid content tracker". And it does that very very well.

Hence sites like Github which round out Git's features to something that's actually usable to build an actual product. That the Linux kernel is developed by having all the developers subscribing to various mailing lists might work for them but most people would describe that as ridiculously impractical.

I agree there is pressure, many sites that develop elsewhere maintain a Github mirror for visibility, which due to Git's nature is trivial to arrange. Despite what people say, there are many competitors and self-hosting still happens. I don't like the Gitlab workflow either, I'm more a Gerrit fan myself, but to each their own.

As for the "compulsory participation to Copilot", ISTM they're simply exercising Software Freedom 1: The freedom to study how a program works [using the source code]. You may be thinking "that's not what I meant", but that's a different issue.

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Posted Apr 3, 2023 11:43 UTC (Mon) by Wol (subscriber, #4433) [Link]

> As for the "compulsory participation to Copilot", ISTM they're simply exercising Software Freedom 1: The freedom to study how a program works [using the source code]. You may be thinking "that's not what I meant", but that's a different issue.

Hmmm...

What they are doing, what they think they are doing, what other people think they are doing, and what other people do, are four different realities. I would be completely unsurprised if other people come up with more.

What they ARE doing is provided half-baked dodgy teaching materials, encouraging licence violations, etc etc.

They may say that's not their intention, and I believe them, but - as with the FSF's four freedoms! - actions have consequences, and quite often what happens is not what the originators intended to happen (or maybe it is ...)

Cheers,
Wol

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Posted Apr 3, 2023 16:30 UTC (Mon) by paulj (subscriber, #341) [Link] (2 responses)

There are some pretty good self-hosting alternatives to GitHub. E.g., Gogs - or its fork - is very easy to get installed and working.

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Posted Apr 3, 2023 16:34 UTC (Mon) by paulj (subscriber, #341) [Link] (1 responses)

I'd love to see some kind of distributed bug reporting/handling in git though. And, ideally, integrated with code review. I don't know how useable any of the solutions in this space are.

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Posted Apr 11, 2023 5:01 UTC (Tue) by flussence (guest, #85566) [Link]

Forgejo is supposedly building distributed collaborative features for git, but they've barely made any progress in a year beyond adding an empty skeleton metadata API (and unfortunately it's going to use ActivityPub, so the result is all but guaranteed to be a big ball of mud).

The closest existing thing to what you're asking for may be Fossil, which is lacking the somewhat critical feature here of "being git". And its code review support is a bit nonexistent, since it was built in service of a project that infamously doesn't take any outside contributions. Could serve as a source of inspiration for anyone looking to build something new though.

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Posted Apr 5, 2023 12:27 UTC (Wed) by ballombe (subscriber, #9523) [Link]

> As for the "compulsory participation to Copilot", ISTM they're simply exercising Software Freedom 1: The freedom to study how a program works [using the source code].

Precisely, they updated the TOS to give them rights, instead on relying on the license.

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Posted Apr 6, 2023 8:09 UTC (Thu) by anselm (subscriber, #2796) [Link]

ISTM they're simply exercising Software Freedom 1: The freedom to study how a program works [using the source code].

Copilot doesn't study how a program works. It studies what bits of syntax appear next to one another and how frequently.

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Posted Mar 31, 2023 11:08 UTC (Fri) by Kiwi (subscriber, #45876) [Link] (1 responses)

Open source software is intrinsically political. Few things aren't political actually.
I despite those spaces which try to be "apolitical" because they easily end up being conservative (thus political), for the simple reason than preventing discussion favours political immobility and eventually conservativism.

I therefore welcome any article about digital rights and the politics of free and open source software.

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Posted Mar 31, 2023 11:21 UTC (Fri) by Wol (subscriber, #4433) [Link]

"political" is having a view on something, basically.

"Political" on the other hand, is joining with other people to actively do something about it.

Both can be good, both can be bad, ...

Cheers,
Wol

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Posted Apr 6, 2023 9:08 UTC (Thu) by davidgerard (guest, #100304) [Link]

> political activism campaigns

good thing that Free Software never had anything to do with any sort of political campaign then

wait,

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Posted Mar 30, 2023 2:47 UTC (Thu) by NYKevin (subscriber, #129325) [Link] (7 responses)

> The EU has a "use it or lose it" policy that allows creators to claw back their copyright if the work is not in use.

The US also has a clawback right, but it isn't "use it or lose it." It's "after 35 years, the creative can just take their copyright back, no questions asked." In practice, this is mostly used as a bargaining chip in exchange for better royalty payments on very popular items, but in theory, anyone whose work isn't considered "work for hire" can do it.

(See 17 USC 203 for post-1978 copyrights, 17 USC 304 for older copyrights.)

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Posted Mar 30, 2023 10:35 UTC (Thu) by paulj (subscriber, #341) [Link] (6 responses)

So... someone who had contributed code under the GPL to some project can just terminate the licence in that window of time? (which seems to be a 5-year window that starts at about 35 years)?

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Posted Mar 30, 2023 12:17 UTC (Thu) by Wol (subscriber, #4433) [Link] (3 responses)

I think you're confusing copyright SALE with copyright LICENSING.

Just because the author can reclaim the copyright, it doesn't (I hope) mean they can void any lawfully granted licences.

Cheers,
Wol

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Posted Mar 30, 2023 12:28 UTC (Thu) by paulj (subscriber, #341) [Link] (2 responses)

The USC code NYKevin referred to is titled "Termination of transfers and licenses granted by the author", and starts with:

"(a) Conditions for Termination.—In the case of any work other than a work made for hire, the exclusive or nonexclusive grant of a transfer or license of copyright or of any right under a copyright, executed by the author on or after January 1, 1978, otherwise than by will, is subject to termination under the following conditions:

..."

Seems like licenses are included.

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Posted Mar 30, 2023 22:03 UTC (Thu) by dskoll (subscriber, #1630) [Link]

But it doesn't seem to cover derivative works?

A derivative work prepared under authority of the grant before its termination may continue to be utilized under the terms of the grant after its termination, but this privilege does not extend to the preparation after the termination of other derivative works based upon the copyrighted work covered by the terminated grant.

Source

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Posted Mar 31, 2023 1:01 UTC (Fri) by NYKevin (subscriber, #129325) [Link]

Indeed, not only does it include licenses in general, it includes licenses that explicitly forbid such termination:

> (5)Termination of the grant may be effected notwithstanding any agreement to the contrary, including an agreement to make a will or to make any future grant.

So you can't fix this by adding a clause to a future version of the GPL. You just have to accept the fact that people can take their copyright back. However, for larger projects, you can probably argue that it's a "joint work" and requires a majority, as other commenters have noted.

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Posted Mar 30, 2023 12:31 UTC (Thu) by randomguy3 (subscriber, #71063) [Link] (1 responses)

there's some text in the law about how derivative works are protected, and joint grants/licenses require authors with a majority stake to agree, so it's at the very least not as clear cut as that

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Posted Mar 31, 2023 9:53 UTC (Fri) by paulj (subscriber, #341) [Link]

How does that work for a changeset though? The changeset has a specific copyright holder, even if also derived from the original work. It's not a joint-work till integrated - which requires the licence from the changeset contributor?

Interesting question anyway.

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Posted Mar 30, 2023 9:31 UTC (Thu) by PengZheng (subscriber, #108006) [Link]

> The current system is "designed to isolate us from one another", so that we have that "hollow emptiness inside of us" and we will want to fill it with ever-more production and consumption.

Is she talking about modularization? ;p
It's what makes large scale software development (or large scale social cooperation) efficient.

Rebecca Giblin on chokepoint capitalism

Posted Mar 30, 2023 11:28 UTC (Thu) by kleptog (subscriber, #1183) [Link] (13 responses)

The related point that kept popping into my mind here is the compulsory licensing of music. Once a piece of music has been released to the public it can be played by anyone in exchange for a specified fee. That's how radio stations can play music all day without asking the copyright holder (or songwriter for that matter).

Imagine if that was extended to all digital art, like audio books, digital books, movies and TV series. No more walled gardens, full transparency (because of the reporting requirements). Imagine that after 10 years any movie could be streamed by anyone as long as they paid $1 to the copyright holder per stream. That would throw open the market to any entrant.

I'm sure that the fee collectors for music are their own horror stories. Still, one can dream.

PS. I also found this article to be very interesting and appropriate for LWN.

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Posted Mar 30, 2023 12:15 UTC (Thu) by Wol (subscriber, #4433) [Link] (2 responses)

> I'm sure that the fee collectors for music are their own horror stories. Still, one can dream.

The fee collectors are supposed to distribute the fees to the copyright holders. But for small-time artists, the fee-collector's fees eat it all up. And for many works I don't think they bother tracking down the artist, so they hang on to the money in their own bank account, until the artist comes and claims it (which they never do, because they know nothing about it ...)

And then, of course (I think this got shot down, fortunately), there's the horror of having to pay a fee-collector for the right to broadcast YOUR OWN music ...

Etc etc.

Cheers,
Wol

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Posted Mar 30, 2023 12:21 UTC (Thu) by dskoll (subscriber, #1630) [Link]

It really is a ripoff. I have 5 tracks on a comedy album available on all the popular streaming platforms. The album was released 5 months ago. I've accrued an amazing $0.34 in royalties. That is $0.00337 for each time someone listens to my comedy. I can't withdraw a payout until it reaches $5, which at this rate will take more than 8 years.

To put that into context, I recently did a 15-minute set at a tiny pub near a university. For that one independently-produced local show, I made more than 115x my entire royalties earnings. (Yeah, I'm not getting rich off comedy...)

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Posted Apr 4, 2023 12:54 UTC (Tue) by nim-nim (subscriber, #34454) [Link]

Like all organizations fee collectors exist primarily to finance fee collectors. Tracking small fishes is a lot of work and successful copyright holders can afford big lawyers to make sure fee collectors take as little as possible from them. The system has strong built-in incentives to make fee collectors take their cut from small copyright holders.

Therefore, a fairer (and more effective) way of promoting arts would be to force fee collectors to provide a free (as in beer) service to small copyright holders, taking their cut only from big successful ones that can afford that and have the lawyers to keep fee collectors honest. You’d probably also need to make part of the fee collection revenue indexed on the proportion of collection reversed to small copyright holders.

Not going to happen but one can dream.

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Posted Mar 30, 2023 14:17 UTC (Thu) by rschroev (subscriber, #4164) [Link] (8 responses)

> Once a piece of music has been released to the public it can be played by anyone in exchange for a specified fee. That's how radio stations can play music all day without asking the copyright holder (or songwriter for that matter).

I don't think it's as simple as that, unfortunately. If someone wants you use a song in a movie for example, they have to clear the rights to do that, which as far as I know is not simply a matter of paying a specified fee. I have read about cases (but sadly I don't remember any specifics) where film makers fall back to the second choice of song since they didn't succeed in clearing the rights to their preferred song.

> Imagine if that was extended to all digital art, like audio books, digital books, movies and TV series. No more walled gardens, full transparency [...]

Almost sounds like a certain John Lennon song :)

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Posted Mar 30, 2023 15:21 UTC (Thu) by Wol (subscriber, #4433) [Link] (3 responses)

Different scenarios, different rules. You're talking about *recording* a work. The previous discussion was about *playing* a *recording*.

That said, I think artists can object to their recordings being used, but only after the fact. I think Trump used some music in his campaigns, but as soon as the artist realized, he objected and Trump had to stop using it. That's not nice or good, for both the artist and the person using the recording ...

Cheers,
Wol

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Posted Mar 30, 2023 17:11 UTC (Thu) by rschroev (subscriber, #4164) [Link] (2 responses)

You need to clear the rights to be able to legally play the song while playing your movie. I don't think it's all that much different from playing the song on the radio. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean by recording?

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Posted Mar 31, 2023 7:22 UTC (Fri) by Wol (subscriber, #4433) [Link] (1 responses)

All these fee-collection agencies allow YOU to play the song.

You need to go back to the source, if you wish to RECORD the song so SOMEONE ELSE can play YOUR version (whether you simply copy someone else's rendition, or get someone to create a new rendition for you).

Cheers,
Wol

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Posted Mar 31, 2023 8:00 UTC (Fri) by rschroev (subscriber, #4164) [Link]

Ah yes, I see your point now.

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Posted Mar 30, 2023 21:34 UTC (Thu) by rgmoore (✭ supporter ✭, #75) [Link] (3 responses)

I have read about cases (but sadly I don't remember any specifics) where film makers fall back to the second choice of song since they didn't succeed in clearing the rights to their preferred song.

It's not exactly the case you're talking about, but the movie Killer of Sheep is an instructive example. It was made as a student film, so the director (Charles Burnett) didn't bother to get the rights to the music, which meant it couldn't be released commercially. It was so highly regarded, though, that it was placed on the National Film Registry for its artistic or cultural value. Eventually, Steven Soderburgh donated $150K so they could buy licenses to all the music, and it was finally released 30 years after it was first shown in film festivals.

I'm not trying to say that directors should be allowed to pay a flat fee and use any music they like without permission from the musicians. But it does show how convoluted copyright issues can get.

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Posted Apr 2, 2023 13:22 UTC (Sun) by jezuch (subscriber, #52988) [Link]

I do wonder, though, how much of that $150k went to the songwriters. My guess: not so much.

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Posted Apr 3, 2023 15:43 UTC (Mon) by marcH (subscriber, #57642) [Link] (1 responses)

> But it does show how convoluted copyright issues can get.

On that topic:
https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1161382179 "Why platforms like HBO Max are removing streaming TV shows"

It's all extremely opaque of course - how else would middle-men make a ton of money? - but these journalists found a few interesting facts.

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Posted Apr 3, 2023 16:15 UTC (Mon) by marcH (subscriber, #57642) [Link]

Forgot this sorry: there is this "User-Centric Payment System" project to pay musical artists in a simpler, more direct and fairer way. It seems a bit stuck though - too transparent? :-)

https://www.deezer-blog.com/how-much-does-deezer-pay-arti...

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Posted Mar 31, 2023 12:53 UTC (Fri) by pmarquesmota (subscriber, #156137) [Link]

We have that here in France. Some children were fined because they sang a copyrighted song in public, and the songwriter wasn't able to waive the fee, he had to make himself a check to the fee agency.
See https://www.maitre-eolas.fr/post/2006/07/21/403-adieu-mon... (in French)
And children do program, I was something like 12 when I started.

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Posted Mar 30, 2023 23:53 UTC (Thu) by bokr (guest, #58369) [Link] (2 responses)

Ironic that some chokepoint seems to be interfering
with my downloading Rebecca Ghiblin's video, which she
seems to want to share.

( <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T-o9J-IVFU> link in LWN article this is a commenting on)

What choked out a direct link to a .mp4 or .webm etc that people can simply
download with wget or curl? ;-/

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Posted Mar 31, 2023 2:01 UTC (Fri) by xanni (subscriber, #361) [Link]

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Posted Mar 31, 2023 2:26 UTC (Fri) by pabs (subscriber, #43278) [Link]

For the cases where the original video isn't available and or directly linked, yt-dlp can download video from YouTube and other such video sites.

https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp

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Posted Mar 31, 2023 0:09 UTC (Fri) by dvrabel (subscriber, #9500) [Link] (2 responses)

Given all the problems with royalty based compensation pointed out in this article and how it is grossly unfair by disproportionately rewarding a tiny handful of authors and musicians, why do authors and musicians (indivduals and their respective unions) continue to insist on royalties instead of insisting on being salaried or negotiating a fair hourly rate or flat fee contract?

The video game industry is mostly salaried artists, writers, and sound designers. Soundtracks are either composed in house or (as I undrestand it) for a flat-fee contracts and voice actors are paid hourly rates. There's no shortage of interesting, unique, and creative works from both large studios and small, so I don't think the lack of royalty based compensation is harming creative output in this space.

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Posted Mar 31, 2023 7:32 UTC (Fri) by kleptog (subscriber, #1183) [Link]

It's the classic risk/reward trade-off. People working for a salary get paid a fixed amount and carry no risk. On the other hand, authors apparently prefer to take the risk themselves. So there's a good chance they earn almost nothing, but maybe they'll become a millionaire. And publishing houses offer to take some of the risk in exchange for some of the royalties.

Before the existance of copyright there were creative works, but they were often work-for-hire, usually rich patrons. Even now, I suspect the majority of code is written as work-for-hire.

I think there's also a stigma against work-for-hire books. As if they're not as creative or something.

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Posted Apr 13, 2023 5:33 UTC (Thu) by ebwb (guest, #144520) [Link]

> why do authors and musicians (indivduals and their respective unions) continue to insist on royalties instead of insisting on being salaried or negotiating a fair hourly rate or flat fee contract?

Ah, but they do becomes salaried/flat-fee contract workers! They're called session musicians and music writers, and they work at the creative director's behest for the project they're working on. When it comes to musicians writing their own music for their own sake, where the musician (or group of) themselves is the creative director, they're going to have quite the difficult time convincing a record label to hand them over a salary!

It's the chokepoint on creativity that this article is describing, not a chokepoint on talent alone.

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Posted Apr 3, 2023 0:57 UTC (Mon) by marcH (subscriber, #57642) [Link]

> They don't have to and they benefit from that lack of transparency.

From opaque finance and accounting to cryptic legalese, I think _Information Asymmetry_ is always the very first chapter in the playbook to destroy competition and the so-called "free market". That's one of the reasons why crypto is so bad: no transparency and no oversight.

> Whenever we want to understand why something works the way that it does despite really obvious shortcomings, "the trick is to look at who's winning—and who's losing".

A.k.a.: "always follow the money". But of course most of the time you can't.

> There are only a few superstars who have the standing to negotiate equitable contracts (e.g. Taylor Swift in the music industry).

Actually, the Ticketmaster monopoly is too powerful for even Taylor Swift. Look at her very shy comments on the topic.

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Posted May 9, 2023 8:20 UTC (Tue) by Klavs (guest, #10563) [Link]

To us as programmers of the very software that enables these kinds of uses of our software IMHO its VERY important to know how it ends up making a lot of loosers in the world - so that we KNOW and can consider our role in this - and maybe say NO - as we, as programmers, are building the world that enables this.

I am happy to see that many programmers are taking stances as to what they want their work to be used for - and to me its really important that we all care about the world we want our kids to live in - instead of short term monetary gains alone - as that will end up being to our own detriment.


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