don't ascribe to malice....
don't ascribe to malice....
Posted Aug 1, 2010 2:51 UTC (Sun) by dlang (guest, #313)In reply to: Publications in computer sciences: use arXiv! by bokr
Parent article: Realtime Linux: academia v. reality
I don't think the requirements to use the research paper publishers are due to malice, I think it's inertia.
In the days before the Internet, publishing was a very expensive thing to do, In such an environment an organization dedicated to separating the wheat from the chaff and publishing the wheat was an incredibly valuable service to provide.
Over the years, as the organization providing this service was able to make a profit from publishing things, and the cost of publishing has dropped, I think they have become less critical about what they publish, and so their value as a filter for 'the good stuff' has been dropping.
With the cost of publishing now almost zero, there would still be value in the service of evaluating papers to find the good ones, but I don't think any of the research publishers are really providing that service effectively anymore.
As such, I think that publishing the papers in a place where Google can find them (and apply the pagerank type algorithm to them) is at least as effective an indication of the probably quality of the papers.
It would be good if the various industry organizations would recognize this and make all the papers available, and provide a service for their members by reading everything they can and provide feedback to the author and quality scores for their members (along with indexing services to help their members find things)
I think that simply the process having a lot of people reading disparate documents would be valuable as the readers would be able to spot things across the different documents that the authors of the documents themselves are unaware of.
Posted Aug 1, 2010 18:10 UTC (Sun)
by marcH (subscriber, #57642)
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Yet career progression still depends on this service. It is not clear to me how this could be replaced by PageRank.
Posted Aug 1, 2010 21:26 UTC (Sun)
by dlang (guest, #313)
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but if you want to count the papers published, that's pretty simple to do, even without the current publishing companies, simply document what you've published.
this doesn't include information about how good the papers are, but I have my doubts about the existing publishers really doing that anyway.
Posted Aug 1, 2010 21:27 UTC (Sun)
by dlang (guest, #313)
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Posted Aug 1, 2010 23:27 UTC (Sun)
by corbet (editor, #1)
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Posted Aug 1, 2010 23:45 UTC (Sun)
by dlang (guest, #313)
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Posted Aug 1, 2010 23:47 UTC (Sun)
by corbet (editor, #1)
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Posted Aug 2, 2010 0:24 UTC (Mon)
by dlang (guest, #313)
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one problem is figuring out how to minimize abuse, but the bigger problem is getting academia to accept it.
Posted Aug 2, 2010 2:53 UTC (Mon)
by dmarti (subscriber, #11625)
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Professors who contribute to non-Open-Access journals are likely to get the stink eye from the librarian every time they walk in the university library. Library budgets are getting clobbered by increasing subscription prices, as the publishers sell university's own work back to it. Background: Open Access Overview If you're in the USA, please support the Federal Research Public Access Act -- this would at least stop the abuses where federally-funded research is concerned.
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Actually, much peer-reviewed publishing has "page charges" to be paid by the author(s) (or their institution). The publishing industry does its best to collect from everybody involved.
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