A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition
There are a few issues that we are trying to address at this time. One is that there is an inherent tension between the concept of a "weekly edition" and the need to publish news in a frequent and timely manner. One thing that we have clearly observed over the years is that articles we publish immediately in our daily news stream are more visible and are circulated more widely than those that we reserve for the weekly edition. So anything that runs only in the weekly edition is essentially being hidden from many of our actual and potential readers.
The edition format also tends to de-emphasize our core product: our feature content. Feature articles placed toward the rear of the edition are far less visible than those found in the front. Many readers are clearly happy to page through screens of security updates and kernel patches to get to the next feature article, but that's not the case for everybody. The need to page through content that may have already been seen in the daily stream to find the material that is new in the edition is also not helpful.
One of the objectives behind the original weekly edition design was to force ourselves to cover a wide range of topics every week. That remains as strong a goal as ever, but experience has shown that a bit more flexibility also makes sense. Different parts of our community generate news at different times; the need to fill a set of fixed "slots" can make it hard to focus on the most interesting events at any given time.
Finally, recent experience has shown that it is indeed difficult to find authors who are willing to jump onto the LWN treadmill and commit to writing articles that meet the standards that our readers expect. As a result, we still have an open position here at LWN. While our search has not yet yielded a full-time editor, it has brought some welcome additions to our set of freelance authors, as can be seen in, for example, the recent, well-received coverage from the Netdev and Cloud-Native Computing conferences. We are more than happy to have this coverage, but accommodating it will be easier with a more flexible edition format.
With those thoughts in mind we are, on an experimental basis, making some changes to how the LWN Weekly Edition is published. They include:
- Rather than build up a bunch of content and dump it all out on Thursdays, we will work to publish our work steadily over the week as it becomes ready. We will, in other words, become a bit more like most other news-oriented sites in that we'll stop delaying our content and hiding some of it in the weekly edition.
- That said, we have a lot of readers who appreciate the weekly edition and use it as their primary means of access to LWN content. So the edition is not going anywhere; it will continue to be published every Thursday, and it will continue to offer an overall view of what has happened in the Linux and free-software community over the previous week. If you only come to LWN on Thursdays, you can continue to do so and will not miss a thing.
- The layout of the edition will change, though. We will lead with our strongest product: the feature content that our authors work so hard to create every week. The feature page will be followed by a page of briefer items, many of which, as they always have, consist of pointers to interesting material elsewhere on the net. Finally, the back page will hold the announcements that we have always carried: newsletters, conferences, security updates, kernel patches, etc. We are not there yet, but the intent is for the back page to be the only weekly edition page that carries content which has not yet been seen elsewhere on the site. So readers who follow us every day will eventually be able to skip all but this page without fear of missing something new.
One important thing to note here is that LWN's content mix is not changing — we are not dropping any coverage areas. All that is changing is how that content is organized and presented.
This new format is an experiment; if it truly fails to work out, we can go back to the way things used to be. But we want to run the experiment for a while to see how it works and, undoubtedly, there will be changes to make on the way. There are also internal workflow changes that will have to be made in the coming weeks as we figure out the best way to work in the new mode. Suggestions from readers, in the form of comments to this article or direct email, will be appreciated.
(The curious may be wondering about the decline in subscribers that was reported in the August article. We are happy to say that the situation changed after the publication of that article, and subscriptions are growing again. Thanks to all of you who signed up to support LWN.)
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Posted Apr 20, 2017 1:27 UTC (Thu)
by neilbrown (subscriber, #359)
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Posted Apr 20, 2017 1:47 UTC (Thu)
by jkingweb (subscriber, #113039)
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I'm glad subscriptions are up. I am one such new subscriber (because there was a series of $ articles that I was burning to read one week), and will be subscribing annually. I adore the content here, even though I mostly use Windows.
Posted Apr 20, 2017 8:24 UTC (Thu)
by niner (subscriber, #26151)
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Posted Apr 20, 2017 10:10 UTC (Thu)
by blackwood (guest, #44174)
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Posted Apr 20, 2017 2:14 UTC (Thu)
by JacobvonChorus (guest, #109772)
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I really enjoy the content on this site and the quality of the writing. Keep it up, I am happy to be a subscriber.
Posted Apr 20, 2017 12:03 UTC (Thu)
by itvirta (guest, #49997)
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On the other hand, opening the full "Front page" (https://lwn.net/Articles/719985/) just starts with the text of the first article,
Posted Apr 24, 2017 18:54 UTC (Mon)
by zelmo (✭ supporter ✭, #48367)
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Posted Apr 20, 2017 3:12 UTC (Thu)
by rsidd (subscriber, #2582)
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One thing that may help here is to have a short (< 50 word) summary for each article on the main page, not just the headline?
Posted Apr 20, 2017 3:18 UTC (Thu)
by rsidd (subscriber, #2582)
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Posted Apr 21, 2017 13:33 UTC (Fri)
by nix (subscriber, #2304)
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Posted Apr 20, 2017 5:25 UTC (Thu)
by jwoithe (subscriber, #10521)
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I'm not sure there's an easy solution: listing by distribution (which clearly benefits many readers) is fundamentally incompatible with a listing by software name. You can only do one and obviously you need to do whatever suits the majority. However, at least for me the new layout is sub-optimal since I pull in a significant amount of software which is not included in my distribution, and therefore confining my attention to only one distribution list does not work.
Posted Apr 20, 2017 6:16 UTC (Thu)
by epa (subscriber, #39769)
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Posted Apr 22, 2017 1:06 UTC (Sat)
by NightMonkey (subscriber, #23051)
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Posted Apr 20, 2017 8:42 UTC (Thu)
by Trou.fr (subscriber, #26289)
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Although I only rapidly skimmed through the section, the curation done by LWN made it easy to spot interesting vulnerabilities that did not get coverage.
But I understand the current format is probably way faster to create and I'm really sure I'd like the staff to spend time on the section rather than writing feature articles :)
Posted Apr 20, 2017 13:58 UTC (Thu)
by mrshiny (guest, #4266)
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Posted Apr 24, 2017 14:18 UTC (Mon)
by paulj (subscriber, #341)
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I much preferred having security update overview grouped by project/package, and with the brief summary of the issue visible.
I didn't care about the distro, I cared about the package. Additionally I was also interested in getting a broad overview of the types of security issues that are being found, across software - inc. ones I don't use.
Posted Apr 27, 2017 8:49 UTC (Thu)
by Wol (subscriber, #4433)
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List by one, cross-reference by the other? Of course, that's more work ...
The obvious layout there is by software cross-referenced by distro.
Cheers,
Posted Apr 20, 2017 7:50 UTC (Thu)
by valberg (guest, #83862)
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Posted Apr 20, 2017 8:07 UTC (Thu)
by TomH (subscriber, #56149)
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I don't recall ever paging though screens of security updates and kernel patches to find the feature articles, nor did it ever occur to me that feature articles were at the rear of the edition.
Rather when I arrived at the weekly edition from the RSS feed each week I would see a short list of sections, each of which I would visit in turn. Each section contained a number of feature articles followed by some new-in-brief type items. The "Kernel" section also had a handful of brief items before the feature articles. The final section was "Announcements" which had most of the other new-in-brief type stuff that you seem to be saying people were having to page through to find the features.
This week I was presented with just three sections - one named "Front" that turned out to be all the feature articles, one named "Briefs" that seems to contain all the things that used to be at the bottom of the sections (and the bits from the top of "Kernel") concatenated together and then the traditional "Announcements" section.
I mean the new layout isn't terrible or anything but it doesn't seem to be any better either and on balance I probably preferred the old version though I'm sure I will quickly get used to the new almost-everything-on-one-page design.
Posted Apr 21, 2017 6:06 UTC (Fri)
by tnoo (subscriber, #20427)
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Posted Apr 20, 2017 10:02 UTC (Thu)
by tpm (subscriber, #56271)
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Posted Apr 20, 2017 12:22 UTC (Thu)
by tureba (guest, #108208)
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Now that there is no content unique to the weekly edition, I know exactly what I can skip of it. And what's left in it is usually faster content that I can skim over. For me, these are all good changes so far.
Posted Apr 21, 2017 19:27 UTC (Fri)
by aggelos (subscriber, #41752)
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There is something to be said for reading through articles when the time feels right. I do expect this change to be beneficial to LWN though (intermittent variable rewards). Hopefully it'll work out for the best.
Posted Apr 20, 2017 12:18 UTC (Thu)
by tartley (subscriber, #96301)
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Posted Apr 20, 2017 12:44 UTC (Thu)
by randomguy3 (subscriber, #71063)
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Posted Apr 20, 2017 12:52 UTC (Thu)
by droundy (subscriber, #4559)
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Posted Apr 20, 2017 14:54 UTC (Thu)
by nbecker (subscriber, #35200)
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I'm not seeing anything equivalent to either in the new edition. Brief has some items, but not nearly as much news about specific distro, or specific applications and libraries. Am I just missing it?
Posted Apr 20, 2017 15:29 UTC (Thu)
by Cato (guest, #7643)
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Perhaps one answer would be to tag such articles as Development etc, and make it easy to find them whether inside or outside the weekly editino?
Posted Apr 20, 2017 17:24 UTC (Thu)
by spwhitton (subscriber, #71678)
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Posted Apr 20, 2017 18:15 UTC (Thu)
by RamiRosen (guest, #37330)
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Rami Rosen
Posted Apr 20, 2017 20:12 UTC (Thu)
by chfisher (subscriber, #106449)
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Posted Apr 20, 2017 23:32 UTC (Thu)
by kenmoffat (subscriber, #4807)
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Posted Apr 21, 2017 12:50 UTC (Fri)
by lacos (guest, #70616)
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That's great. The weekly edition is my "Thursday treat"; effectively it's me that hides the juicy bits from myself until next Thursday, even if I could read some of them meanwhile.
Posted Apr 22, 2017 4:59 UTC (Sat)
by tedd (subscriber, #74183)
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A few requests per the new weekly: I like reading the articles as grouped by topic (kernel, security, distributions, etc) so are you still following this format? Could you maybe subtly change the background for each section in the main page?
Following the comments and determining the depth of each indent is a bit difficult. Some visual clue, perhaps? Alternating background colour for each level?
Thank you for constantly updating and revising.
Posted Apr 22, 2017 12:30 UTC (Sat)
by tlamp (subscriber, #108540)
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+1
> A few requests per the new weekly: I like reading the articles as grouped by topic (kernel, security, distributions, etc) so are you still following this format? Could you maybe subtly change the background for each section in the main page?
+10
I really liked the old grouped format!
I'll find the change to push articles faster out good but the change with the weekly edition not so good, to be honest.
> Following the comments and determining the depth of each indent is a bit difficult. Some visual clue, perhaps? Alternating background colour for each level?
The possibility to collapse child threads (i.e. like reddit comment threads) would be also nice, IMHO.
Keep up the good work!
Posted Apr 25, 2017 5:52 UTC (Tue)
by kay (subscriber, #1362)
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1. the pages are veeery long and no navigation. web rule 2: long pages hide your content from reader.
the pages does not need fixed section names, numbers are also ok
anyway: live is change. whats not changing is that you are the best linux soure.
Posted Apr 25, 2017 5:57 UTC (Tue)
by kay (subscriber, #1362)
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Posted Apr 26, 2017 19:55 UTC (Wed)
by nix (subscriber, #2304)
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There is probably a sweet spot somewhere between a one-word-long page and a page that pushes your machine into thrash hell, but I'm not sure where it is.
Posted Apr 24, 2017 11:21 UTC (Mon)
by mirabilos (subscriber, #84359)
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Posted Apr 28, 2017 17:18 UTC (Fri)
by matlads (guest, #84088)
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Posted Apr 26, 2017 0:24 UTC (Wed)
by Nikratio (subscriber, #71966)
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I like the idea of separating out the feature content, but I really dislike that the front page of the weekly edition now contains all feature articles. That makes it really hard to navigate on my phone.
Thanks for considering,
Posted Apr 27, 2017 1:25 UTC (Thu)
by joshs (guest, #115306)
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Posted Apr 27, 2017 2:45 UTC (Thu)
by geek (guest, #45074)
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Posted May 4, 2017 16:32 UTC (Thu)
by opalmirror (subscriber, #23465)
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What I have come to realize over the years is that the presence of the weekly edition is the most important part of LWN to me. The weekly edition is thoughtfully composed and organized with editorial intent. It contains the most interesting and relevant articles, with recognizable connections between them. There is even related humor in and near the articles, grounding topics in a sense of community and humanity. It doesn't matter to me so much if its twice a week or once a week or every other week, or sporadic. In short, the value of the collected edition of the various news snippets is considerably greater than the sum of its parts.
If LWN had no editorial collections of recent articles of import, if LWN were only - merely - an endlessly cycling blog, including low and high priority topics, without the dotted lines of editorial collection between them, then I would lose much of my interest in LWN.
My reading pattern is organized around the weekly edition as well. Some weeks, I check lwn.net's feed for content daily, reading selected blog entries and looking forward to the rollup and expansion coming in the weekly. On other weeks, I check it only on Thursday afternoon or Friday morning to read the weekly edition.
Most frequently, when I'm deeply involved in a project, I may neglect LWN for several weeks. In this case, when I get time to do so, I go back and read the most recent weekly news, then the week before that, then the week before that, and so on until I am caught up.
I may skim sections of the weekly edition, but I never skip them entirely. Being an embedded systems/internals sort of person, I pay a lot of attention to the kernel topics, development and distributions, but all parts have interesting content.
LWN is the most useful collection of news on the Linux ecosystem that I have found. I'm glad to support it.
Posted May 31, 2017 0:14 UTC (Wed)
by klossner (subscriber, #30046)
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Posted Jul 15, 2017 11:14 UTC (Sat)
by dwayne (subscriber, #17004)
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I know you can't make it work for everyone, but I am sorry to say that this sure does not work out for me. I am realy quite sad to have my enjoyable weekly read.
Posted Jul 15, 2017 19:39 UTC (Sat)
by rschroev (subscriber, #4164)
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That page is really bland now, all the articles are mentioned with just a word or two, even the site main page ("Headlines") shows longer
descriptions of the articles (i.e. the whole title).
with the others hidden below. A TOC with possibly the one-paragraph brief blurbs on one page would be nice.
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I love the idea of releasing more content as it's ready throughout the week.
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And Linus is still the BDFL and actively in charge, having developed git on the way to help him. I can't think of any comparable example in history.
The closest I can think of is Knuth, developing METAFONT and designing a bunch of well-regarded fonts on the way to writing TeX. But, of course, for him TeX was mostly a means to an end (typesetting TAOCP in a way that he regarded as satisfactory) so he hasn't exactly been the most hyperactive of maintainers since, and while the TeX community is wonderful, Knuth is not a part of it.
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So if you want to push the new "almost all bigger articles in one page" format I really would like some distinction like described by the parent comment I'm replying.
Or even filtering of thematics (kernel, security, distributions, …) or tags.
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2. no grouping of themes , which was the biggest advatage over the news stream
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This would make consequential reading of the news *much* nicer
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Nikolaus
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