|
|
Subscribe / Log in / New account

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

By Jonathan Corbet
April 19, 2017
Back in August 2016, we noted that the LWN Weekly Edition format had changed little since it was first created in early 1998. We also promised some experimentation at that time. Eight months later, the time has come to roll out one of our bigger experiments. The hope is that the changes will serve the two goals of making LWN more useful to its readers and making it more sustainable to produce. We hope readers will let us know what they think — after reading the reasoning behind the changes.

There are a few issues that we are trying to address at this time. One is that there is an inherent tension between the concept of a "weekly edition" and the need to publish news in a frequent and timely manner. One thing that we have clearly observed over the years is that articles we publish immediately in our daily news stream are more visible and are circulated more widely than those that we reserve for the weekly edition. So anything that runs only in the weekly edition is essentially being hidden from many of our actual and potential readers.

The edition format also tends to de-emphasize our core product: our feature content. Feature articles placed toward the rear of the edition are far less visible than those found in the front. Many readers are clearly happy to page through screens of security updates and kernel patches to get to the next feature article, but that's not the case for everybody. The need to page through content that may have already been seen in the daily stream to find the material that is new in the edition is also not helpful.

One of the objectives behind the original weekly edition design was to force ourselves to cover a wide range of topics every week. That remains as strong a goal as ever, but experience has shown that a bit more flexibility also makes sense. Different parts of our community generate news at different times; the need to fill a set of fixed "slots" can make it hard to focus on the most interesting events at any given time.

Finally, recent experience has shown that it is indeed difficult to find authors who are willing to jump onto the LWN treadmill and commit to writing articles that meet the standards that our readers expect. As a result, we still have an open position here at LWN. While our search has not yet yielded a full-time editor, it has brought some welcome additions to our set of freelance authors, as can be seen in, for example, the recent, well-received coverage from the Netdev and Cloud-Native Computing conferences. We are more than happy to have this coverage, but accommodating it will be easier with a more flexible edition format.

With those thoughts in mind we are, on an experimental basis, making some changes to how the LWN Weekly Edition is published. They include:

  • Rather than build up a bunch of content and dump it all out on Thursdays, we will work to publish our work steadily over the week as it becomes ready. We will, in other words, become a bit more like most other news-oriented sites in that we'll stop delaying our content and hiding some of it in the weekly edition.
  • That said, we have a lot of readers who appreciate the weekly edition and use it as their primary means of access to LWN content. So the edition is not going anywhere; it will continue to be published every Thursday, and it will continue to offer an overall view of what has happened in the Linux and free-software community over the previous week. If you only come to LWN on Thursdays, you can continue to do so and will not miss a thing.
  • The layout of the edition will change, though. We will lead with our strongest product: the feature content that our authors work so hard to create every week. The feature page will be followed by a page of briefer items, many of which, as they always have, consist of pointers to interesting material elsewhere on the net. Finally, the back page will hold the announcements that we have always carried: newsletters, conferences, security updates, kernel patches, etc. We are not there yet, but the intent is for the back page to be the only weekly edition page that carries content which has not yet been seen elsewhere on the site. So readers who follow us every day will eventually be able to skip all but this page without fear of missing something new.

One important thing to note here is that LWN's content mix is not changing — we are not dropping any coverage areas. All that is changing is how that content is organized and presented.

This new format is an experiment; if it truly fails to work out, we can go back to the way things used to be. But we want to run the experiment for a while to see how it works and, undoubtedly, there will be changes to make on the way. There are also internal workflow changes that will have to be made in the coming weeks as we figure out the best way to work in the new mode. Suggestions from readers, in the form of comments to this article or direct email, will be appreciated.

(The curious may be wondering about the decline in subscribers that was reported in the August article. We are happy to say that the situation changed after the publication of that article, and subscriptions are growing again. Thanks to all of you who signed up to support LWN.)

Next January, LWN will complete its 20th year of publication. That is far longer than we ever thought we would be doing this but, at the same time, it often feels like we are just getting started. We will almost certainly be making other changes in the future, aimed at making LWN better and keeping it strong for the next 20 years. But one thing will certainly not change: we remain dedicated to creating the best writing about Linux and free software for the best reader community on the planet. Thanks to all of you for your support; that is what has kept us going for so long.


to post comments

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted Apr 20, 2017 1:27 UTC (Thu) by neilbrown (subscriber, #359) [Link] (6 responses)

I would like to see a table-of-contents at or near the top of the Front Page. That would make it easier to see what content is available that I haven't read yet, and make it easy to decide what to read now, and what to leave to later, depending on how busy I feel.

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted Apr 20, 2017 1:47 UTC (Thu) by jkingweb (subscriber, #113039) [Link] (2 responses)

I agree. Especially as I tend to be a day-to-day reader, it would be helpful in order to skip articles I know I've already resd, as well as pick out things which I might have missed.

I'm glad subscriptions are up. I am one such new subscriber (because there was a series of $ articles that I was burning to read one week), and will be subscribing annually. I adore the content here, even though I mostly use Windows.

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted Apr 20, 2017 8:24 UTC (Thu) by niner (subscriber, #26151) [Link]

Even if I were not into computers at all, I'd have to have at least a minimal subscription to lwn.net, just because it's a shining example of how journalism should be like.

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted Apr 20, 2017 10:10 UTC (Thu) by blackwood (guest, #44174) [Link]

One more vote for a TOC (maybe even in the sidebar). The old format had just 1-3 articles per page, which gave me a reasonable good overview. And also helped with splitting my lwn reading into blocks.

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted Apr 20, 2017 2:14 UTC (Thu) by JacobvonChorus (guest, #109772) [Link]

Second this, a one-line synopsis could also be of benefit.

I really enjoy the content on this site and the quality of the writing. Keep it up, I am happy to be a subscriber.

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted Apr 20, 2017 12:03 UTC (Thu) by itvirta (guest, #49997) [Link]

On a similar note, I usually go to the weekly from the main page, so in this case to https://lwn.net/Articles/719985/rss .
That page is really bland now, all the articles are mentioned with just a word or two, even the site main page ("Headlines") shows longer
descriptions of the articles (i.e. the whole title).

On the other hand, opening the full "Front page" (https://lwn.net/Articles/719985/) just starts with the text of the first article,
with the others hidden below. A TOC with possibly the one-paragraph brief blurbs on one page would be nice.

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted Apr 24, 2017 18:54 UTC (Mon) by zelmo (✭ supporter ✭, #48367) [Link]

Another vote for TOC on the front page, ideally with links to an anchor on each article.
I love the idea of releasing more content as it's ready throughout the week.

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted Apr 20, 2017 3:12 UTC (Thu) by rsidd (subscriber, #2582) [Link]

>Feature articles placed toward the rear of the edition are far less visible than those found in the front.

One thing that may help here is to have a short (< 50 word) summary for each article on the main page, not just the headline?

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted Apr 20, 2017 3:18 UTC (Thu) by rsidd (subscriber, #2582) [Link] (1 responses)

PS - indeed it's amazing, that you have been publishing for 20 years and that I have been reading it for nearly that long despite not being a developer. And remembering what Linux was like in the 1990s and looking at it today, no matter whether there is progress on the "desktop" or not, it's been some journey. And Linus is still the BDFL and actively in charge, having developed git on the way to help him. I can't think of any comparable example in history. I've used Linux almost exclusively on all my machines starting with my first laptop -- I made a couple of detours into BSD-land but was never in the least tempted by Mac and certainly not Windows -- and LWN is a big reason for that, it's an incredble fount of expert information, both the articles and the comments.

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted Apr 21, 2017 13:33 UTC (Fri) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

And Linus is still the BDFL and actively in charge, having developed git on the way to help him. I can't think of any comparable example in history.
The closest I can think of is Knuth, developing METAFONT and designing a bunch of well-regarded fonts on the way to writing TeX. But, of course, for him TeX was mostly a means to an end (typesetting TAOCP in a way that he regarded as satisfactory) so he hasn't exactly been the most hyperactive of maintainers since, and while the TeX community is wonderful, Knuth is not a part of it.

Structure of LWN Weekly Edition security updates list

Posted Apr 20, 2017 5:25 UTC (Thu) by jwoithe (subscriber, #10521) [Link] (6 responses)

While only tangentially related to this latest formatting change, I wanted to comment on the new layout of the weekly security updates summary which debuted a few weeks ago. While I understand the motivation for grouping things by distribution, it makes it much harder to spot reports of vulnerabilities in software which might not necessarily be included in the specific distribution we run. In the past it was easy to scan down the list for any software of particular interest, but now it is necessary to cast eyes over every distribution list. Due to the understandably high degree of duplication across lists, this makes it much easier to miss an entry for a specific piece of software.

I'm not sure there's an easy solution: listing by distribution (which clearly benefits many readers) is fundamentally incompatible with a listing by software name. You can only do one and obviously you need to do whatever suits the majority. However, at least for me the new layout is sub-optimal since I pull in a significant amount of software which is not included in my distribution, and therefore confining my attention to only one distribution list does not work.

Structure of LWN Weekly Edition security updates list

Posted Apr 20, 2017 6:16 UTC (Thu) by epa (subscriber, #39769) [Link] (1 responses)

I liked having the security section near the front of the weekly edition. It was a useful reminder that the security record of free software (and software in general) is still woeful. A long list of new and updated vulnerabilities can be relegated to the back (myself, I do not really use it, relying on installing package updates from my distribution). But it would be cool to have some 'vulnerability of the week' chosen by the LWN editors with a bit of commentary. We get that for major things like Heartbleed of course.

Structure of LWN Weekly Edition security updates list

Posted Apr 22, 2017 1:06 UTC (Sat) by NightMonkey (subscriber, #23051) [Link]

Of course, you could also say that the state of software security generally is "woeful", but with Open Source software at least we get to see the problems. :)

Structure of LWN Weekly Edition security updates list

Posted Apr 20, 2017 8:42 UTC (Thu) by Trou.fr (subscriber, #26289) [Link]

Thanks for voicing clearly the feeling I had when seeing the new format.

Although I only rapidly skimmed through the section, the curation done by LWN made it easy to spot interesting vulnerabilities that did not get coverage.

But I understand the current format is probably way faster to create and I'm really sure I'd like the staff to spend time on the section rather than writing feature articles :)

Structure of LWN Weekly Edition security updates list

Posted Apr 20, 2017 13:58 UTC (Thu) by mrshiny (guest, #4266) [Link]

I think this is a case where a little Javascript would be useful. It's fairly simple to sort a table in JS, and it's unobtrusive.

Structure of LWN Weekly Edition security updates list

Posted Apr 24, 2017 14:18 UTC (Mon) by paulj (subscriber, #341) [Link]

Ditto.

I much preferred having security update overview grouped by project/package, and with the brief summary of the issue visible.

I didn't care about the distro, I cared about the package. Additionally I was also interested in getting a broad overview of the types of security issues that are being found, across software - inc. ones I don't use.

Structure of LWN Weekly Edition security updates list

Posted Apr 27, 2017 8:49 UTC (Thu) by Wol (subscriber, #4433) [Link]

> I'm not sure there's an easy solution: listing by distribution (which clearly benefits many readers) is fundamentally incompatible with a listing by software name.

List by one, cross-reference by the other? Of course, that's more work ...

The obvious layout there is by software cross-referenced by distro.

Cheers,
Wol

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted Apr 20, 2017 7:50 UTC (Thu) by valberg (guest, #83862) [Link]

I love the idea as it aligns more with my daily reading habits. Thanks for your great work!

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted Apr 20, 2017 8:07 UTC (Thu) by TomH (subscriber, #56149) [Link] (1 responses)

Whilst I applaud the idea of publishing more articles as they are ready I have to say that I don't really recognise the description of the weekly edition given here...

I don't recall ever paging though screens of security updates and kernel patches to find the feature articles, nor did it ever occur to me that feature articles were at the rear of the edition.

Rather when I arrived at the weekly edition from the RSS feed each week I would see a short list of sections, each of which I would visit in turn. Each section contained a number of feature articles followed by some new-in-brief type items. The "Kernel" section also had a handful of brief items before the feature articles. The final section was "Announcements" which had most of the other new-in-brief type stuff that you seem to be saying people were having to page through to find the features.

This week I was presented with just three sections - one named "Front" that turned out to be all the feature articles, one named "Briefs" that seems to contain all the things that used to be at the bottom of the sections (and the bits from the top of "Kernel") concatenated together and then the traditional "Announcements" section.

I mean the new layout isn't terrible or anything but it doesn't seem to be any better either and on balance I probably preferred the old version though I'm sure I will quickly get used to the new almost-everything-on-one-page design.

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted Apr 21, 2017 6:06 UTC (Fri) by tnoo (subscriber, #20427) [Link]

I second that. The old style was good enough, and ordered by topic. The new ordering by article length is less ideal, as I might be interested in brevia from one topic, but not the others. But obviously we eventually adapt to any style.

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted Apr 20, 2017 10:02 UTC (Thu) by tpm (subscriber, #56271) [Link] (2 responses)

Sounds great! Personally, I have come to prefer the daily drib of articles, both news and subscriber-only feature articles. The weekly editions sometimes felt a bit overwhelming when things were busy, then they would languish in my inbox for weeks until I got time to read them. An article or two a day is more manageable and enjoyable.

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted Apr 20, 2017 12:22 UTC (Thu) by tureba (guest, #108208) [Link]

I've had the same overall experience. When I'm busy the weekly editions pile up for weeks until I get the time to invest in them, which just makes the delay between content creation and reader consumption larger. But the daily articles are easier to squeeze into my morning news-reading routine, so they rarely get postponed.

Now that there is no content unique to the weekly edition, I know exactly what I can skip of it. And what's left in it is usually faster content that I can skim over. For me, these are all good changes so far.

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted Apr 21, 2017 19:27 UTC (Fri) by aggelos (subscriber, #41752) [Link]

There is something to be said for reading through articles when the time feels right. I do expect this change to be beneficial to LWN though (intermittent variable rewards). Hopefully it'll work out for the best.

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted Apr 20, 2017 12:18 UTC (Thu) by tartley (subscriber, #96301) [Link]

Thank you for your years of sterling service. The format changes sound sensible, and I hope lead to ever greater success for LWN.

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted Apr 20, 2017 12:44 UTC (Thu) by randomguy3 (subscriber, #71063) [Link] (1 responses)

I'm generally in favour of this change, especially dripping out articles over the week. However, I do miss having the "quotes of the week" breaking up the articles - when reading through the whole Weekly Edition, it's a pleasant brief respite between lengthier content.

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted Apr 20, 2017 12:52 UTC (Thu) by droundy (subscriber, #4559) [Link]

I agree, moving the quotes of the week to the front would seem like an improvement to me. Or to a separate section. I think they violate the rule that all the unpublished content is on the back page, an would like to read them without paging through the brief items I've already seen.

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted Apr 20, 2017 14:54 UTC (Thu) by nbecker (subscriber, #35200) [Link] (2 responses)

I'll admit I didn't spend a LOT of time searching, but the old edition used to have pages:
Distributions
Development

I'm not seeing anything equivalent to either in the new edition. Brief has some items, but not nearly as much news about specific distro, or specific applications and libraries. Am I just missing it?

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted Apr 20, 2017 15:29 UTC (Thu) by Cato (guest, #7643) [Link]

I'm also missing the articles that were in those sections. Maybe the idea is that these get published throughout the week.

Perhaps one answer would be to tag such articles as Development etc, and make it easy to find them whether inside or outside the weekly editino?

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted Apr 20, 2017 17:24 UTC (Thu) by spwhitton (subscriber, #71678) [Link]

I assume that it's just this week's edition -- these pages were sometimes only brief items.

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted Apr 20, 2017 18:15 UTC (Thu) by RamiRosen (guest, #37330) [Link]

This reorganization seems the right thing to do, and the reasoning behind it makes sense. The lwn.net site proved to be one of the most important professional sources about Linux and Open Source, especially about the Linux Kernel. Each week I admire lwn.net team more and more. Keep on the good work!

Rami Rosen

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted Apr 20, 2017 20:12 UTC (Thu) by chfisher (subscriber, #106449) [Link] (1 responses)

I would also like to add a plea for a TOC in the sidebar. Otherwise, the new format looks pretty good to me.

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted Apr 20, 2017 23:32 UTC (Thu) by kenmoffat (subscriber, #4807) [Link]

A TOC is definitely needed - from the Content list I Iooked at Unread comments. From one, I decided to read the full set of comments for the article. I recalled it was in Brief Items, but the only way to get to the full set of comments was to go back to the start of the weekly edition and skim/page-forward until I found it.

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted Apr 21, 2017 12:50 UTC (Fri) by lacos (guest, #70616) [Link]

> If you only come to LWN on Thursdays, you can continue to do so and will not miss a thing.

That's great. The weekly edition is my "Thursday treat"; effectively it's me that hides the juicy bits from myself until next Thursday, even if I could read some of them meanwhile.

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted Apr 22, 2017 4:59 UTC (Sat) by tedd (subscriber, #74183) [Link] (4 responses)

I absolutely love love love the quality of journalism and have been happy to subscribe every year for a while, despite only recognising some of the words written (!).

A few requests per the new weekly: I like reading the articles as grouped by topic (kernel, security, distributions, etc) so are you still following this format? Could you maybe subtly change the background for each section in the main page?

Following the comments and determining the depth of each indent is a bit difficult. Some visual clue, perhaps? Alternating background colour for each level?

Thank you for constantly updating and revising.

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted Apr 22, 2017 12:30 UTC (Sat) by tlamp (subscriber, #108540) [Link] (3 responses)

> I absolutely love love love the quality of journalism and have been happy to subscribe every year for a while, despite only recognising some of the words written (!).

+1

> A few requests per the new weekly: I like reading the articles as grouped by topic (kernel, security, distributions, etc) so are you still following this format? Could you maybe subtly change the background for each section in the main page?

+10

I really liked the old grouped format!
So if you want to push the new "almost all bigger articles in one page" format I really would like some distinction like described by the parent comment I'm replying.
Or even filtering of thematics (kernel, security, distributions, …) or tags.

I'll find the change to push articles faster out good but the change with the weekly edition not so good, to be honest.

> Following the comments and determining the depth of each indent is a bit difficult. Some visual clue, perhaps? Alternating background colour for each level?

The possibility to collapse child threads (i.e. like reddit comment threads) would be also nice, IMHO.

Keep up the good work!

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted Apr 25, 2017 5:52 UTC (Tue) by kay (subscriber, #1362) [Link] (2 responses)

I miss also the multi page format for 2 reasons:

1. the pages are veeery long and no navigation. web rule 2: long pages hide your content from reader.
2. no grouping of themes , which was the biggest advatage over the news stream

the pages does not need fixed section names, numbers are also ok

anyway: live is change. whats not changing is that you are the best linux soure.

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted Apr 25, 2017 5:57 UTC (Tue) by kay (subscriber, #1362) [Link]

forgot to mentoin: you may go one step forward and tag ervery (news) article. so grouping of articles for weekly can be automated and readers may filter/group on individual interesst also

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted Apr 26, 2017 19:55 UTC (Wed) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

Of course, too-short pages are even more annoying. I'd say that any reader who doesn't realise that scrolling down might reveal more content is perhaps not a reader particularly likely to be reading a site like LWN...

There is probably a sweet spot somewhere between a one-word-long page and a page that pushes your machine into thrash hell, but I'm not sure where it is.

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted Apr 24, 2017 11:21 UTC (Mon) by mirabilos (subscriber, #84359) [Link] (1 responses)

When you read the One Big Page, the “Previous Week” link should go to the previous week’s One Big Page, not to its split view.

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted Apr 28, 2017 17:18 UTC (Fri) by matlads (guest, #84088) [Link]

This would make consequential reading of the news *much* nicer

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted Apr 26, 2017 0:24 UTC (Wed) by Nikratio (subscriber, #71966) [Link]

Hi,

I like the idea of separating out the feature content, but I really dislike that the front page of the weekly edition now contains all feature articles. That makes it really hard to navigate on my phone.

Thanks for considering,
Nikolaus

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted Apr 27, 2017 1:25 UTC (Thu) by joshs (guest, #115306) [Link]

jacob nighthorse

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted Apr 27, 2017 2:45 UTC (Thu) by geek (guest, #45074) [Link]

My usage is simple, I scan every day for articles of interest, those I like that don't have the $ sign I read then, and every week when the weekly is out I read last week's as one big printable page. I don't miss anything and I have a nearly fixed treat for Wednesday nights. A great site, keep it up!

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted May 4, 2017 16:32 UTC (Thu) by opalmirror (subscriber, #23465) [Link]

I welcome experimentation with the format, and find that the new format is working for me about as well as the old format.

What I have come to realize over the years is that the presence of the weekly edition is the most important part of LWN to me. The weekly edition is thoughtfully composed and organized with editorial intent. It contains the most interesting and relevant articles, with recognizable connections between them. There is even related humor in and near the articles, grounding topics in a sense of community and humanity. It doesn't matter to me so much if its twice a week or once a week or every other week, or sporadic. In short, the value of the collected edition of the various news snippets is considerably greater than the sum of its parts.

If LWN had no editorial collections of recent articles of import, if LWN were only - merely - an endlessly cycling blog, including low and high priority topics, without the dotted lines of editorial collection between them, then I would lose much of my interest in LWN.

My reading pattern is organized around the weekly edition as well. Some weeks, I check lwn.net's feed for content daily, reading selected blog entries and looking forward to the rollup and expansion coming in the weekly. On other weeks, I check it only on Thursday afternoon or Friday morning to read the weekly edition.

Most frequently, when I'm deeply involved in a project, I may neglect LWN for several weeks. In this case, when I get time to do so, I go back and read the most recent weekly news, then the week before that, then the week before that, and so on until I am caught up.

I may skim sections of the weekly edition, but I never skip them entirely. Being an embedded systems/internals sort of person, I pay a lot of attention to the kernel topics, development and distributions, but all parts have interesting content.

LWN is the most useful collection of news on the Linux ecosystem that I have found. I'm glad to support it.

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted May 31, 2017 0:14 UTC (Wed) by klossner (subscriber, #30046) [Link]

I would read only the kernel section of the weekly edition. Now I find it hard to identify the kernel news from the rest of the stream.

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted Jul 15, 2017 11:14 UTC (Sat) by dwayne (subscriber, #17004) [Link] (1 responses)

After giving the new model some time, I have to say that I read LWN less than with the old model. I liked the specific sections, from which I could choose the content that is interesting to me. With the new model it appears as some big hunk of stuff to me, that I have to get through completely to check whats interesting.

I know you can't make it work for everyone, but I am sorry to say that this sure does not work out for me. I am realy quite sad to have my enjoyable weekly read.

A reorganization of the LWN Weekly Edition

Posted Jul 15, 2017 19:39 UTC (Sat) by rschroev (subscriber, #4164) [Link]

I must say I have the same feeling. I'm afraid I can't explain exactly how or why, has somehow gotten less welcoming for me.


Copyright © 2017, Eklektix, Inc.
This article may be redistributed under the terms of the Creative Commons CC BY-SA 4.0 license
Comments and public postings are copyrighted by their creators.
Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds