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TB3 is better for me

Posted Dec 9, 2009 15:24 UTC (Wed) by dskoll (subscriber, #1630)
In reply to: TB3 is better for me by kragil
Parent article: Thunderbird 3.0 released

Well, I did file a bug and it was recently tagged "regression", so that's a hopeful sign... maybe TB3 will eventually be good after a few more releases.


Kuhn: The Anatomy of a Modern GPL Violation

Posted Dec 9, 2009 15:19 UTC (Wed) by sylware (guest, #35259)
Parent article: Kuhn: The Anatomy of a Modern GPL Violation

"...encourage the company in a friendly way to join the FLOSS community rather than work against it."
Binary drivers do not work out as a friendly way.


KDE Software Compilation 4.4 Beta1 Released

Posted Dec 9, 2009 14:35 UTC (Wed) by kragil (guest, #34373)
In reply to: KDE Software Compilation 4.4 Beta1 Released by alankila
Parent article: KDE Software Compilation 4.4 Beta1 Released

Well, I am sure KDE wouldn't do it this exact way again .. the time spend defending the 4.0 release on the interwebs could easily be used give 3.5 small updates to keep the illusion or good maintenance.

So let's just bury the past, the lessons were learned and we can all now move forward.

My guess is that 4.4 will be fairly great and 4.5 will have fixes for every ones problems (great KDE browser, good Office apps, activity management that does not suck etc.)


Not saying it's right, but..

Posted Dec 9, 2009 14:32 UTC (Wed) by alankila (guest, #47141)
In reply to: Not saying it's right, but.. by mpr22
Parent article: Callaway: Chromium: Why it isn't in Fedora yet as a proper package

True, I suppose. Now if only such a thing also exposed a functional stable driver ABI for things like wlan cards and graphics drivers...


KDE Software Compilation 4.4 Beta1 Released

Posted Dec 9, 2009 14:18 UTC (Wed) by alankila (guest, #47141)
In reply to: KDE Software Compilation 4.4 Beta1 Released by halla
Parent article: KDE Software Compilation 4.4 Beta1 Released

A few years' worth of commitment of supporting 3.5 while 4.0 was being fleshed out would have been great. But the message was that 3.5 is now abandoned and 4.x is the way.

Thus, distros were forced to put 4.0 to the masses, or face the prospect of supporting 3.5 themselves. It all worked, I guess, if your purpose was to drag people kicking and screaming into the 4.0 land to act as unwilling beta testers. Unfortunately, 4.0 worked so poorly that people -- me included -- were soured on KDE.


Still no Canonical?

Posted Dec 9, 2009 14:18 UTC (Wed) by Cato (guest, #7643)
In reply to: Still no Canonical? by gregkh
Parent article: Who wrote 2.6.32

Ignoring Canonical's major contributions in usability and integration above the kernel is also pretty "sad", not to say biased. If you weren't working for a competitor, your harping on about this would be more credible - I prefer Red Hat's approach in just developing great new features in Fedora.


Aieee!

Posted Dec 9, 2009 13:55 UTC (Wed) by iq-0 (subscriber, #36655)
In reply to: Aieee! by pbrutsch
Parent article: Thunderbird 3.0 released

It auto archives all mail, which can simply be disabled. Same for junk mail settings.

I for one don't want them, so I turn them off (because I have a lot of mail with a lot of archives which I access regularly from different machines and have serverside spam scanning and mail sorting).
But those are features that 90%+ of all users would want (and those users probably don't have any clue about these sort of things). And I think it's really understandable that they are enabled by default. Hell, I had to tweak less options (especially on general account configuration) than in Tb2 and was set to go a lot faster.

Okay, so downloading all mail once for the indexer is a bit of a drag, but that's a one time process. And global search is a nice thing to have imho also on Imap accounts.

In the end it's all very personal, not so much a "WTF" as a "not my cup of tea".


Form posting support

Posted Dec 9, 2009 13:50 UTC (Wed) by dskoll (subscriber, #1630)
In reply to: Form posting support by zlynx
Parent article: Thunderbird 3.0 released

All that I can say is that if you used HTML form submit in your email, you must not have tested many email clients.

We know many email clients are broken, so we do in fact include individual accept/release links as a workaround. But up until now, we could confidently recommend Thunderbird to customers who wanted the "full experience" of the form. TB3 users will now have only partial functionality, like their unfortunate Outlook-using colleagues.


KDE Software Compilation 4.4 Beta1 Released

Posted Dec 9, 2009 11:17 UTC (Wed) by halla (subscriber, #14185)
In reply to: KDE Software Compilation 4.4 Beta1 Released by mpr22
Parent article: KDE Software Compilation 4.4 Beta1 Released

I'm wondering what makes people phrase these things so negatively... Maybe it's more fun to write or makes them feel better about themselves.

What you said could easily be phrased as "KDE 4.0 was released for developers to enable them to start porting their applications." That phrasing has the twin advantages of being more more accurate and more insightful. (As well as being politer to all the volunteers who have put in many hours of labour into the work, but that might not be seen as an advantage.)


KDE Software Compilation 4.4 Beta1 Released

Posted Dec 9, 2009 10:57 UTC (Wed) by mpr22 (subscriber, #60784)
In reply to: KDE Software Compilation 4.4 Beta1 Released by JoeF
Parent article: KDE Software Compilation 4.4 Beta1 Released

My impression is that KDE 4.0 was released in a messy half-finished state because it was the only way to get people to start moving their apps.


KDE Software Compilation 4.4 Beta1 Released

Posted Dec 9, 2009 10:38 UTC (Wed) by jospoortvliet (guest, #33164)
In reply to: KDE Software Compilation 4.4 Beta1 Released by jackb
Parent article: KDE Software Compilation 4.4 Beta1 Released

I don't think it's done yet... Sorry. That will probably have to wait
until KDE SC 4.5 :(


Konqueror

Posted Dec 9, 2009 10:37 UTC (Wed) by jospoortvliet (guest, #33164)
In reply to: Konqueror by drag
Parent article: KDE Software Compilation 4.4 Beta1 Released

Oh, many agree with you (including me). However this is an area where the
Free Software nature of the KDE community makes things a bit harder. We
can't decide what the Konqueror/KHTML developers work on - that's their
prerogative. Luckily some are working on the WebKit KPart, as is said, and
once it is good enough (tm) it might become default one day.


Debian Lenny

Posted Dec 9, 2009 10:27 UTC (Wed) by jospoortvliet (guest, #33164)
In reply to: Debian Lenny by nye
Parent article: KDE Software Compilation 4.4 Beta1 Released

Hmm, here it comes up instantly, but then again, I recently upgraded my PC
to a rather beafy thing. Still the diff shouldn't be big. Sure, KRunner
does a lot more than the old alt-f2 thing (a shitload more) but it's
preloaded and only has to show it's window. That shouldn't take more than
a few miliseconds...


Debian Lenny

Posted Dec 9, 2009 10:26 UTC (Wed) by jospoortvliet (guest, #33164)
In reply to: Debian Lenny by martinfick
Parent article: KDE Software Compilation 4.4 Beta1 Released

actually it's not just the drivers (but that does play a part in this),
it's also that konqi simply hasn't been keeping up with the competition.
Hopefully we'll see a better webkit in future releases. I often use Aurora
now, webkit based, works pretty good. And reqkonq is coming, too.


radeon

Posted Dec 9, 2009 10:21 UTC (Wed) by kragil (guest, #34373)
In reply to: radeon by rfunk
Parent article: 2009 Linux Graphics Survey Results (Phoronix)

Well Phoronix is a 3D enthusiast site and Nvidia has just a bigger marketshare (and for a long time their drivers had a better reputation.)

That easily explains those numbers.


TB3 is better for me

Posted Dec 9, 2009 10:17 UTC (Wed) by kragil (guest, #34373)
In reply to: TB3 is better for me by dskoll
Parent article: Thunderbird 3.0 released

If you have special needs and TB is vital to your companys success maybe you should get involved in its development. Complaining on LWN is surely less effective.


Aieee!

Posted Dec 9, 2009 10:03 UTC (Wed) by regala (guest, #15745)
In reply to: Aieee! by pbrutsch
Parent article: Thunderbird 3.0 released

TB2 did that too, because, you see, what a better way for the anti-spam
filter to scan mails than to fetch and read them ?


Needless Forks

Posted Dec 9, 2009 9:56 UTC (Wed) by mpr22 (subscriber, #60784)
In reply to: Needless Forks by marcH
Parent article: Callaway: Chromium: Why it isn't in Fedora yet as a proper package

It's amusing that you mention Windows on the backwards-compatibility score, when just about every Windows application I've ever installed appears to follow the "big ball of binary blobs" approach.


Cinelerra stability

Posted Dec 9, 2009 9:21 UTC (Wed) by halla (subscriber, #14185)
In reply to: Cinelerra stability by drag
Parent article: The CinelerraCV Project (Linux Journal)

Well, Krita is busy raising funds just now: see the Krita fund raiser, though we were clearly not ambitious enough: we managed to raise the 3000 euros needed to have one of us work on Krita full-time for three months in three days instead of the three months we thought we would need.

And we have got a plan, some real users who work with us to go through the issues they have with Krita and who tell us what is missing and what is crappy, so I am really confident that the next major release of Krita, around August or September 2010 will be a very significant improvement.

Especially if people don't stop donating, but go on so we can have Lukas for another month, fixing bugs full-time in the running up to the release!


The 2.6.27.40 and 2.6.31.7 stable kernels are out

Posted Dec 9, 2009 9:05 UTC (Wed) by bangert (subscriber, #28342)
In reply to: The 2.6.27.40 and 2.6.31.7 stable kernels are out by MisterIO
Parent article: The 2.6.27.40 and 2.6.31.7 stable kernels are out

you're right. from http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/924430

> I messed up and sent out the diffstat for 2.6.27.40, not 2.6.31.7.
>
> Here's the correct diffstat.
>
> thanks, and sorry for any confusion.
>
> greg k-h

[snip]



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