Flock: a Flutter fork
We describe Flock as "Flutter+". In other words, we do not want, or intend, to fork the Flutter community. Flock will remain constantly up to date with Flutter. Flock will add important bug fixes, and popular community features, which the Flutter team either can't, or won't implement.
(LWN looked at Flutter in 2020).
Posted Oct 29, 2024 5:05 UTC (Tue)
by josh (subscriber, #17465)
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Posted Oct 29, 2024 9:18 UTC (Tue)
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Posted Oct 29, 2024 18:49 UTC (Tue)
by roc (subscriber, #30627)
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Posted Oct 29, 2024 19:39 UTC (Tue)
by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523)
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Posted Oct 29, 2024 20:53 UTC (Tue)
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Posted Oct 29, 2024 18:47 UTC (Tue)
by roc (subscriber, #30627)
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Posted Oct 29, 2024 6:14 UTC (Tue)
by fredrik (subscriber, #232)
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The Github organization has no public members, and the two projects that are specific for the Flock foundation, "nest" and "website" only has a single committer, Matthew Carrol. The Github organization does reference another person, Jesse Ezell, by their Twitter handle, but I have not found how they're involved.
Are there more people and perhaps organizations behind this? If so, who and how are they organized?
I't is not my intent to cast doubt on the attempt by raising these questions. I have not used Flutter yet, but it has been on my radar because it seems to position itself well as a platform independent framework for app development. One of my concerns for Flutter is precisely that it is a project managed solely by Google, a corporation that is infamous for cancelling successful technology platforms almost at a moment's notice.
Hence I welcome any attempt to form a community driven independent organization that could balance Google's control over Flutter. And apart from the lack of clarity about who's behind the fork, I really like the organizational and technical approach of the fork described in the announcement. That is, a fork that aims to maintain compatibility with the upstream Flutter project, while it adds and supports more functionality and improved quality by staffing up with reviewers and coordination of patches. Areas where the size of the Flutter team at Google apparently is too small to keep up.
Posted Oct 29, 2024 14:21 UTC (Tue)
by bjackman (subscriber, #109548)
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More than every 1 in 10,000 people in the whole world is a Flutter developer?
> a team that loves external contributions has only managed to merge contributions from 1,500 developers over a span of nearly a decade.
So, about the same amount as React.js? K8s has a bit over 3k, LLVM a bit over 3k. Those are arguably some of the most successful open-source projects out there, I'm not unconvinced "1.5k contributors in 10 years" is a signal of failure.
Posted Oct 29, 2024 17:55 UTC (Tue)
by halla (subscriber, #14185)
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> More than every 1 in 10,000 people in the whole world is a Flutter developer?
Who knows... Of course, they wouldn't be exclusive flutter developers. But given that over a million Android devices have Krita on them, and that there are over six million distinct concurrent Krita users in any given month, I wouldn't be so surprised.
There are also estimated (by the Qt company, in 2017, so what) to be around 1,000,000 Qt developers in the world. Flutter, probably, is used by more people.
A million isn't that much, a billion is.
And, of course, if a 1,000,000 people are Qt developers, 999,900,000 people are not. A million is not one in ten thousand of the total of the world population...
Posted Oct 29, 2024 18:09 UTC (Tue)
by Paf (subscriber, #91811)
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Posted Oct 29, 2024 23:51 UTC (Tue)
by willy (subscriber, #9762)
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1 million use flutter? I have no idea. I can't even figure out how to get an order of magnitude. I never have, but this is LWN, not Dart Weekly News.
Posted Oct 31, 2024 6:13 UTC (Thu)
by mirabilos (subscriber, #84359)
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j/k
Posted Nov 2, 2024 2:17 UTC (Sat)
by csigler (subscriber, #1224)
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Clemmitt
Interesting toolkit sadly tied to a language
Interesting toolkit sadly tied to a language
Interesting toolkit sadly tied to a language
Interesting toolkit sadly tied to a language
Interesting toolkit sadly tied to a language
Interesting toolkit sadly tied to a language
Interesting toolkit sadly tied to a language
Interesting toolkit sadly tied to a language
Interesting toolkit sadly tied to a language
Who's behind the fork?
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Chance missed…
It's happening again... (maybe)