Rust saga to end?

Posted Sep 22, 2024 20:13 UTC (Sun) by andy_shev (subscriber, #75870)
In reply to: Rust saga to end? by farnz
Parent article: Whither the Apple AGX graphics driver?

Showing the possibility doesn't mean a production-ready solution. So, why Redox is so inactive, if Rust fellow developers trying hard to make it part of Linux kernel instead of investing more into pure Rust OS?

Rust saga to end?

Posted Sep 23, 2024 8:47 UTC (Mon) by farnz (subscriber, #17727) [Link] (3 responses)

Redox OS is not inactive; it's under quite heavy development. The people pushing Rust into the Linux kernel are not people who want a pure Rust OS; they're people who want to work on Linux, but who find that C is a wholly inadequate language for expressing solutions to hard problems compared to languages they've used before, and who think that Rust is appropriate for kernel use.

This is much like asking why people worked on Linux in the early days, when 386BSD was there and in much better state than Linux 0.x; it's a different group of people, with different objectives.

Rust saga to end?

Posted Sep 24, 2024 20:06 UTC (Tue) by andy_shev (subscriber, #75870) [Link] (2 responses)

Ah, that makes sense! And which of those two groups has most influence in how Rust as a language is being developed?

Rust saga to end?

Posted Sep 24, 2024 20:13 UTC (Tue) by farnz (subscriber, #17727) [Link] (1 responses)

Neither; Rust is sufficiently mature that both groups have similar influence on the future of the language.

Note that Rust is not a particularly new language at this point; stable Rust is 9 years old, whereas the first draft of ANSI C was only 6 years old at the point Linux was first released. There's a lot of groups influencing the future of the language, with the intent that it's a usable language for any domain in which you'd consider C or C++.

Rust saga to end?

Posted Sep 24, 2024 20:16 UTC (Tue) by daroc (editor, #160859) [Link]

In practical terms, however, the Rust project has made supporting the Rust-for-Linux project one of their main goals for 2024.