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Impossible to tell...

Impossible to tell...

Posted Sep 11, 2024 20:26 UTC (Wed) by koverstreet (✭ supporter ✭, #4296)
In reply to: Impossible to tell... by Heretic_Blacksheep
Parent article: A mess in the Python community

It's more than that. Working on core infrastructure is important, high stakes work; we do this work because we care deeply about it.

When you introduce this kind of simplistic "don't use bad words" hammer, you can end up pushing out the people who care most about doing the job right...


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Impossible to tell...

Posted Sep 12, 2024 0:32 UTC (Thu) by Heretic_Blacksheep (guest, #169992) [Link]

Yes and no. Note that I'm neither excusing nor condoning, because I really don't like this kind of he said, they said back and forth. It's nearly always missing the original context, which goes much further than the immediate exchange, the environment, and so on.

I'm merely pointing out that there is a time and place. Reading the room is a Thing, and yes, neurodivergent people can be particularly bad about that at times. That's why civil reminders to keep the tone polite are sometimes necessary. But I'm not at all advocating no consequences to repeated bad behavior even as one of the people that has sometimes admittedly been on that end of things (because of said lack of filtering and because I'm also a member of a few oft-targeted minorities so I really do understand both sides of this kind of thing).

Impossible to tell...

Posted Sep 12, 2024 1:43 UTC (Thu) by dvdeug (guest, #10998) [Link]

> When you introduce this kind of simplistic "don't use bad words" hammer, you can end up pushing out the people who care most about doing the job right...

When you introduce any sort of restrictions, you can end up pushing out people who are very successful at putting out good code. But I don't think complaining about "simplistic" is the problem here. Simplistic rules are easy to follow. Making the rules more complex makes them harder to follow, and doesn't strike me as being less likely to have problems with people who aren't interested in following those type of rules at all.


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