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Posted Sep 10, 2024 17:36 UTC (Tue) by rbtree (guest, #129790)
In reply to: WHAT? by rc00
Parent article: Rust-for-Linux developer Wedson Almeida Filho drops out

OK, I'm not the editor, but...

> Go ... and Clojure

Neither one is a good choice for system-level programming, nor a potential replacement for C in the most significant project this website is about ⇒ there's not much reason for LWN (formerly Linux Weekly News) to cover them.

Although they did cover PHP for a few months a couple of years ago, it seems there was not enough interest among readers to continue.

> idiotic echoes like the one above

You may have misunderstood mb. He blacklisted your future comments because the tone of that phrase is not appreciated; that is all. I see nothing "idiotic" in his comment.

(And yes, I did support LWN while I could, and would still be doing that if not for mindless carpet-bombing performed by certain individuals completely unrelated to this site. No hypocrisy on my end.)


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Posted Sep 10, 2024 18:57 UTC (Tue) by rc00 (guest, #164740) [Link] (1 responses)

I didn't intend for this to become a long thread so I don't know how much more I'll reply but here goes.

> there's not much reason for LWN (formerly Linux Weekly News) to cover them.

There doesn't appear to be a clearly defined charter here and that's part of the issue. You've chosen to scope it to just systems-level programming languages despite the fact that the Linux ecosystem makes use of many higher-level and lower-level languages. Worse yet, there is plenty of coverage on this site for a programming language like Python so even the scope you've opted for is wildly off-base.

> it seems there was not enough interest among readers to continue.

And this is the modern challenge that content creation/distribution channels have to face. You either pander to a niche but terminally online vocal minority or you stick to some predefined ethos. The former strategy is a means for survival. The latter strategy means possibly ending up like AnandTech. I don't have the answer or any recommendations here. On my end, my attention and support are finite resources that I would rather focus where I deem they would have the most value.

> I see nothing "idiotic" in his comment.

Inane? Unsubstantial? Witless? We're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one. Maybe it's a problem on my end? I find myself having a shorter and shorter fuse with the pro-Rust crowd. Somehow, they managed to take the worst parts of the Apple fanboys and the Pythonista/Scala/Haskell hype phases and then exponentiated them into something far more toxic and all around worse. I cast aside any benefit of the doubt years ago. At this point, you can call it bias if you want. I would call it a defense mechanism, not unlike one I've developed for the crypto space. When something is off and off-putting, cutting through the chaff is a more than rational response to develop over time.

This ended up being much more than I intended to write so apologies are in order. I also can't see myself continuing this thread too much longer so apologies in advance for not carrying on with this as well.

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Posted Sep 10, 2024 20:37 UTC (Tue) by Wol (subscriber, #4433) [Link]

> There doesn't appear to be a clearly defined charter here and that's part of the issue. You've chosen to scope it to just systems-level programming languages despite the fact that the Linux ecosystem makes use of many higher-level and lower-level languages. Worse yet, there is plenty of coverage on this site for a programming language like Python so even the scope you've opted for is wildly off-base.

It's Jon's site. He's part of the core linux kernel team (inasmuch as there is such a team). It's down to him what he cares to put in.

And that's why it's such a good site. I go on about PJ, but the charter for Groklaw was similar - if she wasn't happy with it, it got deleted. That's why it was such a damn good site.

Cheers,
Wol


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