Regulatory solution

Posted Jun 28, 2024 13:24 UTC (Fri) by Wol (subscriber, #4433)
In reply to: Regulatory solution by donald.buczek
Parent article: Python grapples with Apple App Store rejections

If the regulators agree with you, Apple are likely to find things get worse next time round the loop ...

You play fair by the regulators, they play fair with you.

You try to game the rules, the regulators will do the same.

Cheers,
Wol

Regulatory solution

Posted Jun 28, 2024 13:56 UTC (Fri) by khim (subscriber, #9252) [Link] (4 responses)

> You play fair by the regulators, they play fair with you.
You try to game the rules, the regulators will do the same.

Sure, but why would that mean that Apple does the wrong thing? Apple Store brings around $100 billions per year to Apple, significant percent of that from EU, which means it would bring $1 trillion or so before collapse of EU in 10, after which EU would stop bringing billions to Apple, one way or another.

And if instead of fighting for these $100 billion (and spending maybe $10 billion on courts and fines) Apple would “play fair” before collapse of EU the it would get $0.5 trillion which is much less than $1 trillion.

Now, if you assume a different scenario, where EU doesn't collapse in 10 years and continue to bring billions for 100 years then sure, “playing fair” would be better, but how do you know EU would survive, let alone thrive, for 100 years?

Regulatory solution

Posted Jun 28, 2024 17:01 UTC (Fri) by Wol (subscriber, #4433) [Link] (1 responses)

> Now, if you assume a different scenario, where EU doesn't collapse in 10 years and continue to bring billions for 100 years then sure, “playing fair” would be better, but how do you know EU would survive, let alone thrive, for 100 years?

No. I'm assuming a different scenario where that doesn't matter. If Apple is perceived as gaming the rules, then the rules will change. In a lot less than 10 years. And in a way that is likely to be - shall we say - painful ... depending on how seriously the regulators are pissed off.

Cheers,
Wol

Regulatory solution

Posted Jun 28, 2024 17:26 UTC (Fri) by khim (subscriber, #9252) [Link]

> If Apple is perceived as gaming the rules, then the rules will change. In a lot less than 10 years.

How do you know? Apple is gaming the rules the whole existence of Apple. It's, essentially, what makes Apple Apple.

Gaming the system is in Apple's DNA. Remember how Jobs swindled Wozniak before Apple even existed and paid $375 instead of $5000? That's how Apple operated it's whole life.

> And in a way that is likely to be - shall we say - painful ... depending on how seriously the regulators are pissed off.

I've heard these talks for decades, sorry. Nothing happens in a lot less than 10 years in European courts and Apple knows that.

And now, almost half-century after it was founded, you say that it would be punished for something it successfully did for half-century? Count me unimpressed. Sure, it would be punished, but so what? That's part of the business-plan and it works.

Just as one example: how long did it took for EU to make it use normal USB connector for it's phone?

Regulatory solution

Posted Jun 28, 2024 17:34 UTC (Fri) by zdzichu (subscriber, #17118) [Link]

What about this fantasy of EU collapse? Someone has been feeding of russian propaganda?

Time to stop

Posted Jun 28, 2024 18:39 UTC (Fri) by jzb (editor, #7867) [Link]

Speculating on the collapse of the EU is well beyond the topic and not useful. It's not going to lead anywhere good, so let's stop here.