White paper: Vendor Kernels, Bugs and Stability

Posted May 23, 2024 15:19 UTC (Thu) by eru (subscriber, #2753)
In reply to: White paper: Vendor Kernels, Bugs and Stability by mb
Parent article: White paper: Vendor Kernels, Bugs and Stability

Isn't that way on my system. There are enough operations that take humanly noticeable amount of time, and as noted, if something is stuck, the scrolling pauses there. The OS is Ubuntu 22.04 which uses systemd; the laptop is 10 years old, but but yet dust-bin-ready, as it was rather upscale when obtained.

White paper: Vendor Kernels, Bugs and Stability

Posted May 23, 2024 15:26 UTC (Thu) by mb (subscriber, #50428) [Link]

We're talking about kernel messages here, right? Not the systemd start-stop messages.

I'm not saying that messages are not useful for debugging. And for that exact reason it's always possible to enable a verbose boot.
But in the vast majority of cases nothing is "stuck" (didn't happen in a decade for me) and there would just be a blast of messages during a couple of seconds boot time that nobody reads.
Therefore, the default should be no kernel messages and also no systemd messages.

A kernel deprecation message would certainly go by unnoticed during the burst of messages.