2023 PSF annual impact report

Posted May 11, 2024 17:42 UTC (Sat) by mb (subscriber, #50428)
In reply to: 2023 PSF annual impact report by pizza
Parent article: 2023 PSF annual impact report

Yes. We are nowhere near it. We are well above it.
There is no deterrence *above* the threshold. That sounds counter intuitive at first. But it actually isn't. People don't think about the possible law consequences before committing a big crime, because they expect not to be caught in the first place.

2023 PSF annual impact report

Posted May 12, 2024 14:18 UTC (Sun) by pizza (subscriber, #46) [Link] (2 responses)

> Yes. We are nowhere near it. We are well above it.

We are saying the same thing, from opposite perspectives.

You can't have punishment without first getting *caught*, and since the odds of getting caught are so small, any potential pumishment has no deterrent effect.

However, it's been repeatedly demonstrated that requiring "real names" [1] considerably increases the odds of getting caught and therefore punished.

[1] Even minimally verified

2023 PSF annual impact report

Posted May 13, 2024 5:15 UTC (Mon) by LtWorf (subscriber, #124958) [Link] (1 responses)

It also increases the chance of someone else using your name and getting you punished.

2023 PSF annual impact report

Posted May 13, 2024 14:17 UTC (Mon) by pizza (subscriber, #46) [Link]

> It also increases the chance of someone else using your name and getting you punished.

As I've repeatedly said (in other threads, in this thread, and even in the message you're replying to) "real names" have to be at least "minimally verified" to have even the possibility of a positive outcome.

(I've also said that you need a much stronger standard -- ie a way to (1) authenticate the credentials themselves, and (2) ensure the credentials match the person presenting them. These are inherently political/jurisductional issues, not technical)