Gentoo bans AI-created contributions

Gentoo bans AI-created contributions

Posted Apr 22, 2024 13:43 UTC (Mon) by khim (subscriber, #9252)
In reply to: Gentoo bans AI-created contributions by Wol
Parent article: Gentoo bans AI-created contributions

I don't know whether continuing is constructive at this point. You are sprouting the same kind of nonsense that you sprouted when undefined behavior was discussed and ignore everything except what you believe to be true. Even if your believe don't even remotely match the reality.

> Let's apply some very simple logic.

If by now “logic”, in English, means “random sequence of letters without any clear meaning”, then I guess I learned some kind of wrong English.

> "I program" = "I am programming"

therefore true = false

Unless you live in Crete, these two cannot be same

Sure, they are not the same, but so are sentences “I am”, “I like”, “I like programming”, “I teach”, “I teach programming” and many others.

> therefore while they are both present

Yes. And they are present in most other human languages. Or do you believe other languges couldn't distinguish without person who is programming for living and person who programs something right now, this very second? They can, that's not a reason to introduce some nonsense bazillion present tenses.

Why does it may surprise that not all things that may happen in present have the same meaning… or why have you decided that alls these sequences of words should be split into three semi-randomly picked present times?

> they have to be different present tenses

Why? Why “I like programming” or “I teach programming” don't need different present tenses, but “I am programming” needs it?

> And I don't know about you, but this confusion is one of the absolutely standard ways by which we detect foreign speakers ... it's a VERY common mistake.

Yes, but is it because English have more “more present tenses” or… because has it “less present tenses”? I would say that it's because it has less.

It's the same story as with articles: similarly to how most of the time difference between “a” and “the” is meaningless (can be picked from the context easily and can be easily conveyed if needed) difference between “I program” and “I am programming” exist but it's not useful! Of course other languages can distinguish between these two forms if needed, it's just most of the time there are no need to distingush them.

Worse: the form that is conveying more often needed meaning (that I'm programming right now) is longer and more complicated.

English is similar to BASH here: like in BASH you may want to write $* or "$@" and, most of the time, short form is not needed and not used so English insist on use of longer form where difference between two forms are meaningless (e.g. on a programmer's forum saying that you know how to program is not useful but saying that you are in process of writing program is useful).

> Coupled with the occasional giveaway of "I programming" which simply doesn't exist in standard English.

Indeed. English grammar is extremely inflexible, rigid and, I would even say, “strange”. It takes a long time for a speaker of some other language where words don't come in a sentence in any particular order to adjust to it.

English, of course, have no choice because it has words that may sound identically when used as noun and as verb, but, again, problem arises not when English offers you more capabilities (you may just ignore them) but when it doesn't have capabilities that other languages have (similarly to how translating program from statically-typed language to dynamically-typed is easy but going in the other direction is not).

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