Herb Sutter on increasing safety in C++

Herb Sutter on increasing safety in C++

Posted Mar 15, 2024 14:54 UTC (Fri) by khim (subscriber, #9252)
In reply to: Herb Sutter on increasing safety in C++ by ms-tg
Parent article: Herb Sutter on increasing safety in C++

> Again, how does it seem more accurate to use the ostracism metaphor rather than a fork?

Do you even know what ostracism word even is? And how was it conducted in an Ancient Greece? Just go and read, damn it!

> Original author forked ntex, which appears to retain a small following and seems to prioritize demonstrating absolute highest performance in benchmarks over reduction in unsafe code patterns?

Original author was expelled from the community by vote of the majority and was forced to leave and go into some other place. Just open the Wikipedia and read it: The person newly ostracised had ten days to leave the city. If he attempted to return, the penalty was death. The property of the man banished was not confiscated and there was no loss of status. After ten years, he was allowed to return without stigma. That is the original implementation of ostracism procedure!

What have happened to Nikolay Kim is as close to original procedure as it was conducted in Ancient Athens as one may imagine! I'm not even sure if someone would have tried to recreate the procedure just for the sake of showing how it may work in a modern world there would be anything to change!

Fork is different, when fork is happening (like e.g., when FreeBSD was worked and NetBSD was create or when Sodipody was forked and InkScape was created) then some group of people leaves and creates a new thing that is fork of the original.

Here we have the exact opposite: the principal author of the whole thing was kicked out because community felt he doesn't do what community think he is supposed to do!

The previous closest case when something that have happened is probably when NetBSD project have kicked out Theo de Raadt and he went on to create OpenBSD. Only it was for [almost] the exact opposite reason: Theo de Raadt had some ideas about how to make things more secure that clashed with the other member.

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