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LineageOS 21 released

LineageOS 21 released

Posted Feb 16, 2024 1:51 UTC (Fri) by julian67 (guest, #99845)
Parent article: LineageOS 21 released

The proprietary Google and Samsung (and whoever) versions that ship with your phone have got so good that rooting your phone or running Lineageos doesn't appeal the same way as it used to. And Samsung have very successfully locked out free software alternatives by making their phones' hardware need a proprietary VoLTE which has not been duplicated in FOSS, so if you install Lineageos on your Samsung you now have a much less capable device, not an improved one. Because you can't make calls. Quite important. On my regular, modern phone and tablet I *could* run FOSS but it's no longer viable as a practical measure and anyway Google & Samsung are not totally dumb; they absorb useful features seen elsewhere. Also if I want *all* the cameras on my Samsung to work, I have to run the official firmware else I lose the Macro completely and some functionality of the cameras that are detected.

Having used Samsung and Sony and Motorola for the last few years what I notice is that the proprietary vendors are doing a pretty good job of squeezing out the alternatives. Some years ago Cyanogenmod was seriously good, it had great appeal as it did things better and faster and felt full of user friendly improvements. Now? Yes, you can choose something else. Will you be able to make phone calls in your market? Maybe, but probably not and if so then that will soon change. Will the cameras work as you'd like? No. Will the audio playback work as you'd like? Probably not. It's pretty sad compared to desktop and server Linux where it's booting a proprietary OS which feels limiting and disappointing compared to the excellence of running *insert your preferred linux flavour here*.


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LineageOS 21 released

Posted Feb 16, 2024 3:23 UTC (Fri) by donbarry (guest, #10485) [Link] (1 responses)

I do it because I want better privacy and control over my device and a long support horizon, which means no Google Play Services and no proprietary apps. Yes, I tolerate the binary blobs for now, but look forward to the day those too can be flushed.

And I select hardware that will give me functionality while I meet those goals. It just means some study before you buy the shiny toy: don't you give some thought to design parameters in anything else costing as much as a modern phone?

Current phone, Moto G7 running LineageOS 20 (soon to be 21). Tablet, pretty much just to run a free/libre mapping application, a Samsung Tab A7 2020 tablet (without LTE) also running Lineageos. In the latter, a vast amount of bloatware was also present on the device as received.

Everything works. And I do *real* stuff on my GNU+Linux laptop anyway. I usually get about 8 years out of these types of hardware, and I expect that to go up, because early phones were so limited.

LineageOS 21 released

Posted Feb 18, 2024 23:32 UTC (Sun) by jch (guest, #51929) [Link]

I remember the early days of desktop Linux on laptops, when you would be able to get most of the necessary features to work, but you still wouldn't quite have feature parity with Windows. In exchange for that, you'd get the feeling that you control your system, and you'd get software updates way after Microsoft stopped supporting your hardware.

Running LineageOS is a little bit like that: most of the hardware features work \ there are suitable replacements for the most important proprietary software, and most proprietary software doesn't work (unless you're running gapps or microg, the Wine of Android). It's still not quite ready for non-geeks (you mean I need to use the web app to order an Uber?), but there's hope.

LineageOS 21 released

Posted Feb 21, 2024 16:49 UTC (Wed) by pabs (subscriber, #43278) [Link]

It is possible the work of Duobango Telecom might eventually become useful for VoLTE. They abandoned it, but there are to forks of it, one at Osmocom and the other by an individual developer.

https://github.com/DoubangoTelecom
https://gitea.osmocom.org/ims-volte-vowifi/doubango
https://github.com/phhusson/doubango


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