Jujutsu: a new, Git-compatible version control system
Jujutsu: a new, Git-compatible version control system
Posted Jan 22, 2024 18:14 UTC (Mon) by madscientist (subscriber, #16861)In reply to: Jujutsu: a new, Git-compatible version control system by Wol
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Also I'm not talking about Git. I'm talking about Magit. Whether you find the staging capability of Git confusing or not is irrelevant to my point, which is that Magit makes it clear why staging exists and what it's good for and how to use it, and makes it easy to use. And, Magit doesn't hide staging or pretend it's just a different way to talk about commits: it's a separate thing, which is integral to the workflow.
I don't really know what you mean by "software house environments"; Emacs is not exactly specialized or with limited availability.
Just to remind there's no such thing as a "programming/computer guru" who is not also an end-user. We are all end-users.
As for why it's complicated, well, some things are just complicated and the only way to simplify them is to remove functionality. Obviously it would be great to have a simple interface to support simple uses and save the complexity for more advanced users, and it would be great if the complex uses could also be made simpler, but to paraphrase Pascal "I am sorry for the complexity of the interface, I have not the time to make it simpler".
Posted Jan 22, 2024 22:00 UTC (Mon)
by Wol (subscriber, #4433)
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"Limited availabity" does not mean "in widespread use". I don't think I've ever known a regular user of Emacs apart from my brother.
> Just to remind there's no such thing as a "programming/computer guru" who is not also an end-user. We are all end-users.
You miss my point. All programming/computing gurus are end users, true. But not all (indeed, VERY FEW) end users are programming/computing gurus. In this environment (LWN) I may not be anything special, but *both* in my work and home environment I am a goliath amongst midgets.
In that sort of environment, where do I learn the things, that to you are second nature?
Cheers,
Posted Jan 22, 2024 23:47 UTC (Mon)
by anselm (subscriber, #2796)
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Yes, but perhaps Emacs would be in more widespread use if more people knew about Magit (and org-mode, and all the other goodies that make Emacs so unique and incredibly powerful).
Posted Jan 23, 2024 10:29 UTC (Tue)
by Wol (subscriber, #4433)
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I've already said I'm very much ALONE amongst my peer group of being a computer expert. MY peer group (which is far more representative of the general workforce than yours) wouldn't have a clue what a SCCS is if you hit them over the head with it! Even less a DVCS!
I don't have a problem with other peoples' opinions (we can all disagree quite friendlily?) UNTIL they assume their opinions apply to the majority. Guess what! We are a VERY SMALL minority!
Cheers,
Jujutsu: a new, Git-compatible version control system
Wol
Jujutsu: a new, Git-compatible version control system
"Limited availabity" does not mean "in widespread use".
Jujutsu: a new, Git-compatible version control system
Wol