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Reducing kernel-maintainer burnout

Reducing kernel-maintainer burnout

Posted Nov 27, 2023 16:30 UTC (Mon) by khim (subscriber, #9252)
In reply to: Reducing kernel-maintainer burnout by karim
Parent article: Reducing kernel-maintainer burnout

I suspect that you both are right. Take a look on quote from Aristotle just above your message. People also like to boring earlier Socrates: The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise.

I don't know why mb brought that quote but it makes me queasy: does he understand context for these quotes or not? Does he want to read and laugh “oh, yeah, wise people told the same thousands of years ago… humanity is still around, everything would be fine… just relax”. Or maybe he wants to support johannbg? It's really hard without him saying anything.

Let me remind you something. Both Socrates and, later, Aristotle lived in a failing former hegemon state: state that had rich history, which was, many years before, a full-blown hegemon of Ancient Greece… but was clearly past it's zenith of power and on the road of the irreversible decline!

Do they forget about that or just simply don't know? Note that Athen's greatest achievements in the philosophy and culture happened after that period which wouldn't have been possible if all young people were awful. Some were quite bright, indeed, but most of the great people in that period weren't born in Athens anymore.

I think what we are observing now is similar phenomena: Western Civilization is collapsing, the majority of young people are useless for mankind, but there are still enough bright people who may still do many great things.


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Reducing kernel-maintainer burnout

Posted Nov 28, 2023 19:01 UTC (Tue) by ghodgkins (subscriber, #157257) [Link]

Alternately, some adults just like to complain about kids being kids, and this is unrelated to geopolitics. For instance, consider this quote from an American in 1906:

"There is a great tendency among the children of today to rebel against restraint, not only that placed upon them by the will of the parent. But against any restraint or limitation of what they consider their rights [...] this fact has filled well minded people with great apprehensions for the future." - Rev Henry Hussmann

No "failing former hegemon state" or "irreversible decline" to see here. Despite Fr. Hussmann's great apprehensions, America made out alright in the 20th century. Indeed, by my math, the children he was complaining about here led America through a period of unprecedented prosperity, technological advancement, and hegemonic power post-WW2.

Reducing kernel-maintainer burnout

Posted Nov 28, 2023 19:29 UTC (Tue) by mb (subscriber, #50428) [Link]

>the majority of young people are useless for mankind,
>but there are still enough bright people who may still do many great things.

Half of the population has an IQ less than 100.
Has always been like that.
You are just getting old and grumpy.


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