Emacs 29.1 released
Emacs 29.1 released
Posted Aug 9, 2023 1:01 UTC (Wed) by repetitivestrain (guest, #165872)In reply to: Emacs 29.1 released by jacktucker
Parent article: Emacs 29.1 released
Posted Aug 10, 2023 4:09 UTC (Thu)
by wtarreau (subscriber, #51152)
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I must say I don't have the reflex to file bugs related to incompatible changes, I imagine they're expected, and frankly when I have to start working on my activities and spend 3-4 hours trying to get my editor back in a state where it's barely usable, the last thing I want to do is to set everything aside and switch to an editor debugging session. That's too central a piece of program for lots of developers.
What I'm really missing is the ability to roll back to an older version in fact. Usually it comes with plenty of packages and it seems everything is tightly coupled, so if you want to roll back you need to roll back everything, and often the older binaries are incompatible with the newer distro due to dependencies on older libs (which is not emacs' fault, just the total mess that lib dependencies on distros is due to some libs having no consideration for strict forward compatibility).
Sadly it's much easier and riskless to upgrade a kernel than an editor, because if it doesn't work, you just restart from the previous one and you're done. The kernel is only an isolated binary with zero dependency. An editor is in fact much more of a whole ecosystem and you rarely have that flexibility.
Posted Aug 10, 2023 13:04 UTC (Thu)
by jacktucker (guest, #166423)
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Yes, that's electric-indent-mode which was enabled by default in Emacs 24. I did not see that change, when I started using Emacs it was at version 25.
> I must say I don't have the reflex to file bugs related to incompatible changes
It's also something I did not do earlier, because I did not know it is so easy: all you need is to send an email to help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org. In my experience the community there is friendly.
Posted Aug 10, 2023 18:07 UTC (Thu)
by jem (subscriber, #24231)
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As someone who has used Emacs for about 40 years, but is only now trying to turn Emacs into a Java IDE, I want to say that Emacs's biggest weakness is not the instability of the core, but the packages. The packages change a lot, and their inter-compatibility is a challenge. I long for some kind of super-packages for more complex tasks like creating an IDE, which requires getting 15-20 packages from different sources to play nicely together. Or at least some official documentation; the situation today is that you have to search the web for third party instructions, which are typically outdated and abandoned.
Posted Aug 10, 2023 23:49 UTC (Thu)
by jacktucker (guest, #166423)
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What you describe explains the popularity of Emacs "starter kits", the two most popular ones are Doom Emacs and Spacemacs.
Emacs 29.1 released
Emacs 29.1 released
Emacs 29.1 released
Emacs 29.1 released