McGrath: Red Hat’s commitment to open source

Posted Jul 13, 2023 16:24 UTC (Thu) by ceplm (subscriber, #41334)
In reply to: McGrath: Red Hat’s commitment to open source by cortana
Parent article: McGrath: Red Hat’s commitment to open source

Exactly:

> “Individual Production Use” means any use other than for Individual Development Use including, but not limited to, using the Software (a) in a production environment, (b) with live data and/or applications and/or (c) for backup instances.

So, Red Hat can sue you any time if you just use packages of their repositories (without any of your own development) in the production environment? Meaning, this is so confusing and ambiguous, that I would immediately run to openSUSE or Debian.

McGrath: Red Hat’s commitment to open source

Posted Jul 13, 2023 16:44 UTC (Thu) by pizza (subscriber, #46) [Link]

> So, Red Hat can sue you any time if you just use packages of their repositories (without any of your own development) in the production environment? Meaning, this is so confusing and ambiguous, that I would immediately run to openSUSE or Debian.

...Debian and OpenSUSE are not equivalent to, or substitutes for, RHEL (or even CentOS Stream), especially where the support window is concerned.

(Unless of course you never actually needed RHEL to begin with, and/or were just using one of its rebuilds because you didn't have to pay anything for it)

Seriously, please, there are a lot of options, but don't delude yourself into thinking that the grass is necessarily greener everywhere else -- Each of those options represents a different culture, warts, and compromises.

McGrath: Red Hat’s commitment to open source

Posted Jul 13, 2023 19:27 UTC (Thu) by kleptog (subscriber, #1183) [Link]

People should really read the whole text[1], it's not long. The passage quoted above is merely the definition of Individual Production Use, the rest of the subscription doesn't distinguish between production and non-production. The distinction is probably for some legal purpose not relevant to us.

And suing? Really? Yes, in theory RedHat can sue anybody, but as an individual the law really limits what they can do to cancelling your subscription. They're not going to sue you unless you happen to be a million dollar business pretending to be an individual developer, because then consumer rights won't protect you.

It feels like some people here want to find a reason to hate RedHat. I don't use RedHat, never have, but I don't think they're evil or anything.

[1] https://developers.redhat.com/terms-and-conditions