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A post on the RustConf keynote fiasco

A post on the RustConf keynote fiasco

Posted Jun 6, 2023 18:42 UTC (Tue) by mb (subscriber, #50428)
In reply to: A post on the RustConf keynote fiasco by jschrod
Parent article: A post on the RustConf keynote fiasco

>they were behaving like schoolyard bullies

They were inviting him with the intent to downgrade the talk just to bully him?
What facts you you base this bold claim on?

Changing mind is maybe rude and is certainly not what they should have done, bit it's far from intentional bullying. (There is no such thing as unintentional bullying).

Bullying is a criminal offense.
Downgrading a talk is rude.

>and have not used that language and ecosystem once

I doubt it. Used Firefox or Android or Windows or ...?

>I just observe the toxic atmosphere and the fanatiscm of that community

You are overreacting a lot. Really.


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A post on the RustConf keynote fiasco

Posted Jun 6, 2023 23:05 UTC (Tue) by jschrod (subscriber, #1646) [Link] (2 responses)

> >they were behaving like schoolyard bullies

> They were inviting him with the intent to downgrade the talk just to bully him?

Of course, nobody did this as a plan. But, obviously from the reports, nobody put a minute of thought into thinking what this degration means to an accomplished expert. There was a link to a post from somebody named "JT" who resigned, who put it into words: He asked around if anybody he knows has ever experienced something like this -- and the answer was "no".

Schoolyard bullies don't plan their actions, they see something they dislike, see an opportunity, and take it. That's why they are called "bullies", they don't act strategically, but on an emotional whim.

> > and have not used that language and ecosystem once

> I doubt it. Used Firefox or Android or Windows or ...?

This comment makes me question your willingness for discussion. IMNSHO it was obvious that I wrote this as a software developer. I wanted to make clear that I'm not involved in software development with Rust. I.e., that I'm impartial to the internal struggle in that project. I'm solely active in the TeX community -- and I'm proud that we don't have as much quarrels as is reported here.

That makes me ask -- just for interest: What is your involvement?
Are you active in the Rust Project?
Were you active in that conference?
Do you have connections to the people that we talk about -- whom I don't know?

A post on the RustConf keynote fiasco

Posted Jun 7, 2023 6:52 UTC (Wed) by Wol (subscriber, #4433) [Link]

> > > and have not used that language and ecosystem once

> > I doubt it. Used Firefox or Android or Windows or ...?

*I* haven't used it. Software I use (I use all three you mention) obviously do.

> That makes me ask -- just for interest: What is your involvement?
> Are you active in the Rust Project?
> Were you active in that conference?
> Do you have connections to the people that we talk about -- whom I don't know?

I have my own projects to be involved in (md-raid, ScarletDME). That said, I read the back-story, which is a bit horrific. That, and posters here saying "Oh it's nothing" and I found it hard to keep out. "Don't feed the trolls" and all that. I think there's a couple of posters here who know how to press my buttons ...

Cheers,
Wol

A post on the RustConf keynote fiasco

Posted Jun 7, 2023 19:38 UTC (Wed) by mb (subscriber, #50428) [Link]

> That makes me ask -- just for interest: What is your involvement?
> Are you active in the Rust Project?
> Were you active in that conference?
> Do you have connections to the people that we talk about -- whom I don't know?

I'm not posting anonymously here.
It's easy to find out who I am and what I am involved in.
So if you really mean it, go for it.

I just don't think it matters.

> This comment makes me question your willingness for discussion.

I have a different opinion than you have and all that is left is a personal attack from your side.


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