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Convergence in the pip and conda worlds?

Convergence in the pip and conda worlds?

Posted Feb 3, 2023 10:22 UTC (Fri) by cortana (subscriber, #24596)
Parent article: Convergence in the pip and conda worlds?

The belief that pip is official is part of the problem

I'm just in despair at this point. The official Install Python Modules documentation says quite clearly:

pip is the preferred installer program. Starting with Python 3.4, it is included by default with the Python binary installers.

I'm now becoming more and more inclined to disregard any recommendations from PyPA, They burned all my goodwill with the Pipenv fiasco, and now this. These days I've settled on a combination of Poetry and micropipenv as the last annoying Python packaging tools, but I expect before too long, something else will force me to move on to newer tools with names generated by picking a random combination of terms from the list [py, dist, package, setup, env, utils, virt, build, virtual, wheel, v, pack, file, ...].


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Convergence in the pip and conda worlds?

Posted Feb 3, 2023 20:15 UTC (Fri) by intelfx (subscriber, #130118) [Link] (1 responses)

> I'm now becoming more and more inclined to disregard any recommendations from PyPA, They burned all my goodwill with the Pipenv fiasco <...>

What was the "Pipenv fiasco"?

Convergence in the pip and conda worlds?

Posted Feb 6, 2023 0:56 UTC (Mon) by NYKevin (subscriber, #129325) [Link]

With some Googling, I dug up these links, which I think might be relevant:

https://chriswarrick.com/blog/2018/07/17/pipenv-promises-...
https://old.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/8jd6aq/why_is_pi...

I cannot speak to the accuracy of anything said on either of those pages, because I have never used pipenv myself and did not follow this issue at the time. Note also that both links are several years old, and the situation may have changed since 2018.


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