Nightly PyTorch builds compromised

Posted Jan 5, 2023 8:38 UTC (Thu) by Wol (subscriber, #4433)
In reply to: Nightly PyTorch builds compromised by groshu
Parent article: Nightly PyTorch builds compromised

I think it's called "security theatre".

It's the difference between hiring a company to provide a guy to check everyone's id, and employing a guy who recognises everyone's face ... night and day ...

Cheers,
Wol

Nightly PyTorch builds compromised

Posted Jan 5, 2023 13:41 UTC (Thu) by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389) [Link] (5 responses)

There's still a level of problem with the former (well, at least when there's insufficient training). My state had very bendable and almost rubbery licenses for a time and people from far-away states were very suspicious of it. They're better now and have some interesting features in them (the transparent hologram window still confuses some people, but it is far better than the older style).

There's also the story of a grocery store in some Midwest state denying a Washington DC license because "DC isn't a state, how can they have driver licenses?" until the police showed up and said "no, this is fine". I recall hearing of disbelief in diplomatic passports as well.

Nightly PyTorch builds compromised

Posted Jan 5, 2023 15:01 UTC (Thu) by farnz (subscriber, #17727) [Link] (2 responses)

I've experienced places in the US refusing service for alcohol because my colleague's passport was clearly fake, since passports are blue and have the word passport on them, whereas his was red and had the "obviously misspelt" word passeport on it.

Nightly PyTorch builds compromised

Posted Jan 5, 2023 22:28 UTC (Thu) by Wol (subscriber, #4433) [Link] (1 responses)

Things don't change, do they ... :-)

35 years ago, a colleague told me stories of his time in Texas. I believe America had plastic licences even then ...

Anyways, the police stopped him and asked for his licence, so he handed them a piece of green paper.

"What's this!?"
"A driving licence."
"How do I know it's a driving licence?"
"It says so. On the front. In big black letters."

Cheers,
Wol

Nightly PyTorch builds compromised

Posted Feb 25, 2023 15:45 UTC (Sat) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

That of course assumes they can read whatever language the words are written in. I might point here at the tale of the most nefarious driving offender in Ireland, a protean master of disguise whose appearance was never the same twice, a Mr. Prawo Jazdy: <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7899171.stm>.

(Lest anyone think this is a joke about the Irish, it was of course an English (Welsh border) council which managed the impressive trick of putting up dual-language Welsh road signs where the Welsh "translation" was the Welsh for "I am out of the office at the moment but will be back on Monday." You'd think they could have at least spotted that the day of the week was in the translation but not the original and that something *must* be wrong, but nooo...)

Nightly PyTorch builds compromised

Posted Feb 7, 2023 16:56 UTC (Tue) by JanC_ (guest, #34940) [Link] (1 responses)

1. Allowing every state & territory & colony of the US to issue its own completely different & incompatible driving license
2. Using driving licenses & other random things instead of proper standardized ID cards as identification

… and then being surprised that the whole setup is confusing, error prone, easy to falsify, and raising suspicion?

Nightly PyTorch builds compromised

Posted Feb 7, 2023 19:25 UTC (Tue) by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389) [Link]

RealID is (supposed) to fix at least a baseline of things. However, the requirement date keeps getting pushed back further and further…