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French Republican time and dates

French Republican time and dates

Posted Jul 13, 2022 16:57 UTC (Wed) by rgmoore (✭ supporter ✭, #75)
In reply to: French Republican time and dates by tialaramex
Parent article: Native Python support for units?

French Republican calendar seems better, at least the names and regularity of month length - Fructidor in particular appeals to me.

The month names are specific to the climate of France; I think they're actually specific to the climate of Paris, so people in Provence would disagree about, e.g. whether NivĂ´se was actually snowy. They certainly have nothing to do with the seasons here in Southern California, and I assume anyone in the Southern Hemisphere would object strenuously.


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French Republican time and dates

Posted Jul 13, 2022 17:03 UTC (Wed) by pbonzini (subscriber, #60935) [Link] (4 responses)

Several Slavic countries name months in ways that resembles the French calendar. In Czech for example January is "ice", May is "blossom", June is "red" (don't ask why), August is "sickle", November is "falling leaves". Other months have similarly bucolic names whose translation I don't remember. I guess people don't care because Czech isn't widely spoken outside Czech Republic.

French Republican time and dates

Posted Jul 13, 2022 20:35 UTC (Wed) by rgmoore (✭ supporter ✭, #75) [Link] (3 responses)

Some of the Roman month names came from the same kind of naming scheme. For example, March was the month devoted to Mars, the god of war, and it was the traditional start to the military campaigning season. June was named for Juno who, among other things, was the goddess of marriage, and June is still the most popular month for weddings. But if you want your calendar to be a truly universal one, it's probably better not to give your months names that are tightly bound to the seasonal happenings in the country where it started. If it does go on to be universal, it will be because those original meanings have become lost over time and people treat the names as if they're arbitrary.

Relating back to the units, thing, one can think of the names of units. It's kind of fun that units are often named after scientists who did important work that's related to the thing they're measuring- Watt for power, Ampere for current, Kelvin for temperature, etc.- but plenty of people can use the units just fine without knowing that, say, Henri Becquerel is credited with discovering radioactivity. That's why we can mix units named for people with ones named for other things- meters, moles, and seconds- without too much problem, though it helps to understand why some are capitalized and others not.

French Republican time and dates

Posted Jul 13, 2022 21:02 UTC (Wed) by excors (subscriber, #95769) [Link] (2 responses)

> It's kind of fun that units are often named after scientists who did important work that's related to the thing they're measuring- Watt for power, Ampere for current, Kelvin for temperature, etc.- but plenty of people can use the units just fine without knowing that, say, Henri Becquerel is credited with discovering radioactivity. That's why we can mix units named for people with ones named for other things- meters, moles, and seconds- without too much problem, though it helps to understand why some are capitalized and others not.

I think your examples are wrong (although I might be misinterpreting your intent) - none of the unit names should be capitalised when written in full, so it should be watt, ampere, kelvin, becquerel, etc. (Except for "degrees Celsius" which should keep its C). It's the abbreviations that use capitals iff they're named after a person (W, A, K, Bq, etc) (except for litres which can be L or l for typographic reasons). (See e.g. https://www.bipm.org/utils/common/pdf/si-brochure/SI-Broc... section 5.2, 5.3)

French Republican time and dates

Posted Jul 14, 2022 18:15 UTC (Thu) by kpfleming (subscriber, #23250) [Link] (1 responses)

And because litre can be either 'l' or 'L', a group of us had quite a laugh at a restaurant whose after-dinner menu included '75ML' portions of popular aperitifs and fortified wines.

French Republican time and dates

Posted Jul 16, 2022 9:33 UTC (Sat) by edeloget (subscriber, #88392) [Link]

> And because litre can be either 'l' or 'L', a group of us had quite a laugh at a restaurant whose after-dinner menu included '75ML' portions of popular aperitifs and fortified wines.

"... and to finish your night with a rapid drink, here is a small pool of 4 megaliters of vodka..."


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