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The Linux Foundation's report on diversity, equity, and inclusionin open source

The Linux Foundation's report on diversity, equity, and inclusionin open source

Posted Dec 22, 2021 10:06 UTC (Wed) by k3ninho (subscriber, #50375)
In reply to: The Linux Foundation's report on diversity, equity, and inclusionin open source by jmarcet
Parent article: The Linux Foundation's report on diversity, equity, and inclusion in open source

>...realms of what I always thought was reason and knowledge
That's a mistake, making things with other people is a social endeavour.

It plays out in communal behaviour which has in-groups/out-groups where we must choose to overcome those distinctions to arrive at this notion that the best code wins out.

What I think matters when trying to welcome contributors: working code wins out. What I think matters when hosting a community or building a business: working code is harder than you think, so we want to avoid additional hardship for contributors.

If new people no longer face biases that people in the community (at present) can't see and won't talk about, we're closer to the goal that reason and knowledge are valued in this social endeavour.

K3n.


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The Linux Foundation's report on diversity, equity, and inclusionin open source

Posted Dec 27, 2021 18:27 UTC (Mon) by NYKevin (subscriber, #129325) [Link] (1 responses)

> It plays out in communal behaviour which has in-groups/out-groups where we must choose to overcome those distinctions to arrive at this notion that the best code wins out.

In this case, the in-group explicitly identifies itself as "the group of reason and knowledge." This is not just wrong, but dangerous, because it makes it more difficult for the in-group to accept that it is guilty of exactly the same cognitive biases as everybody else (such biases are antithetical to the in-group's identity). Ironically, this makes the in-group even more vulnerable to the in-group/out-group bias that you are describing, as well as a host of other biases that correlate with it. The more "rational" the in-group believes itself to be, the less rationally it will in fact behave.

How do we fix that? Be more humble. Listen more, accept greater uncertainty, and think very long and hard before you contradict or disbelieve somebody else's lived experience. Why do you doubt their experience? Do you think they would lie about it, or do you think they have misinterpreted something? If the latter, remember that intentions are invisible, and mostly irrelevant (the environment is welcoming or unwelcoming as a product of our behavior, not our intentions). Be dispassionate - don't take it personally if someone else points out problems with the in-group. Above all, be kind to people.

The Linux Foundation's report on diversity, equity, and inclusionin open source

Posted Dec 28, 2021 0:08 UTC (Tue) by Wol (subscriber, #4433) [Link]

Ask yourself this - you think you're a sane, rational being. What makes you think they are NOT sane, rational beings - what makes you superior? Because you're an arrogant fool?

And if they are sane, rational beings they will have sane, rational reasons for disagreeing with you.

And what makes you right? Because the law of averages says it's 50-50 whether you or they are right!

Cheers,
Wol


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