Forges

Posted Sep 7, 2021 18:08 UTC (Tue) by samlh (subscriber, #56788)
In reply to: Forges by marcH
Parent article: Emacs discusses web-based development workflows

> Yet you knew instantly what it meant, which is what matters.

Please don't make assumptions.

I was able to figure it out from context because I've been around long enough to have used SourceForge (towards the tail end of it's relevence), and I was astonished that anyone would want to call themselves something reminiscent of it.

> You can keep using something longer and we'll likely understand you too, which matters too. Then we'll see what wins; that's just how language evolves.

I'm aware that is how language works. However, I wanted to make it clear that I feel it would be a shame if the language goes that direction.

After all, I'm aware that peek, peak, and pique are turning into synonyms, but that doesn't mean I'm happy about it.

Forges

Posted Sep 7, 2021 19:10 UTC (Tue) by marcH (subscriber, #57642) [Link]

> I was able to figure it out from context

Yeah language is all about context.

> However, I wanted to make it clear that I feel it would be a shame if the language goes that direction.

But again zero single-word alternative to suggest.

"Software Collaboration Platform" embeds all the necessary context in the name which is redundant and why people tend to prefer shorter names.

The typical (and horrible) "solution" for this neologism issue is: SCP. Glad we can easily avoid it this time.

Forges

Posted Sep 7, 2021 20:17 UTC (Tue) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link] (1 responses)

> I've been around long enough to have used SourceForge (towards the tail end of it's relevence), and I was astonished that anyone would want to call themselves something reminiscent of it

SF was at one point THE place to go to get free software. Just because SF towards the tail end (not coincidentally) became undesirable doesn't mean "forge" as a word is somewhat permanently tainted. It is a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

Forges

Posted Sep 8, 2021 0:53 UTC (Wed) by marcH (subscriber, #57642) [Link]

> Just because SF towards the tail end (not coincidentally) became undesirable doesn't mean "forge" as a word is somewhat permanently tainted.

That would be indeed a weird way to think, I hope they meant something else.

Moreover SourceForge was forked into GForge, TeamForge, FusionForge and maybe other forges (and Savannah), so it has not been specific to SF for a long time.