openSUSE Release Engineering minutes August 11

All meeting minutes can be found here: 
https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-meeting
Meeting is hosted here 
https://meet.opensuse.org/ReleaseEngineeringMeeting

## Participants

AdaLovelace, lkocman, dirk, Richard, wengel, DocB, gp, maxlin

## Leap

Migration of docs to 
https://opensuse.github.io/openSUSE-docs-revamped-temp/in...
are we in scope? 

Adrien > The migration initiative is documented here: 
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Documentation_migration) . Its scope
is defined by several conditions, but in a nutshell, it corresponds to
a surface area in Tumbleweed, and common between Tumbleweed and Leap,
that is fundamentally important for a new user. Examples: yast,
snapper, zypper, btrfs, repositories and updates management, desktop
environments, workflow basics.. The full table of contents can be found
at https://opensuse.github.io/openSUSE-docs-revamped-temp/.

Do we want to support the effort? Is there any existing expectation
from the release team?
So far it seems to be related only to desktop experience related docs.
Confirmation regarding scoping would be nice.

Namely (just a small subset that comes to my mind that I need to bump
every year)
Tasks: 
https://github.com/openSUSE/openSUSE-release-process/blob...

https://github.com/openSUSE/openSUSE-release-process/blob... (and few
other tasks on the list) aside from these listed in the
github there is also few others (todo add them to git)

https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Packaging_for_Leap
https://en.opensuse.org/Features_15.3
https://en.opensuse.org/Feature_Planning_15.4

https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:How_to_migrate_to_SLE
https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:System_upgrade

Adrien > To the best of my understanding, no item on the list is in the
scope of the previously mentioned migration initiative. lkocman: Thank
you Adrien!


TODO: 15.3 - SElinux won't boot without selinux policy 
https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1187326
I have to look into this seems SLE disabled feature in skelcd-control
files. We will most likely have to supply the policy, but that will
only work with enabled updates. (Release notes entry needed).
SP3 selinux-policy seems to have a working fix for SLE, so we could
most likely reuse it. TODO check this.

Advertise https://code.opensuse.org/leap/features this on factory as a
place to raise RFEs or larger efforts for the release.

15.3 Quarterly update setup is still in TODO
Discussed 
Leap 15.4 roadmap was published at 
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Roadmap
Review of the openSUSE-release-process happened last Friday (Max,
Dominique, lkocman)

## openSUSE Tumbleweed

dleuenberger on FTO - from August 9  - 20 - Richard is covering

* TW is rolling, but mostly unspectacular changes.
* Reviews were sporadic but after an email to the review team they seem
to be flowing quite well at the moment
* glibc 2.34 staged - still ~27 failures
* systemd 249 is in staging, broke two tests, waiting on the maintainer
to confirm whether or not the issue is worth blocking further
* kernel 5.13.9 with UsrMerge support in staging

## Richard (Kubic/TW MicroOS) 

k8s versions 1.22.0 is on the way
container-selinux with integrated k3s support from upstream is otw -
should facilitate k3s-with-selinux without third party RPMs in the
future.
Working on adding k3s-install to Kubic, a curated version of the
Rancher k3s installation script that negates the need to curl random
shell scripts from the internet.
MicroOS team is concerned that the 'revamped docs' are overlapping and
incorrect the official MicroOS docs at https://microos.opensuse.org.
There does not seem to be a willingness to correct that issue

## Max

* Working on obsoleted binary finder - 
https://github.com/openSUSE/openSUSE-release-process/issu... and 
https://github.com/openSUSE/openSUSE-release-process/issu..., the
output 
https://github.com/nilxam/leap_development/blob/master/sc...
from my script(
https://github.com/nilxam/leap_development/blob/master/sc...
) looks sensible, the next step is merging the result to
NON_FTP_PACKAGES.group - a filter list in 000package-groups which will
be loaded for pkglistgen
* Thanks to Adrian, local repository is fixed after tweaked local limit
filter rules for Leap 15.4. A succees Leap 15.4 product build appeared.
* TTM for 15.4 is enabled
* Will prepare a PR to add Leap 15.4 sync_config to openQA

## Guillaume - Arm

Will be on FTO - from 9th to 27th of August.

 Tumbleweed:
    * installation-images:* are broken for Arm since last update. A fix
is in system:install:head/installation-images and will  be forwarded to
Factory.
    * Fix for btrfs support in u-boot is on the way to Factory: 
https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/909899

Leap 15.3: 
    * Armv7: Is good enough to release officialy. The maintenance setup
is problematic, so we may not freeze and need to keep a rolling release
model. Any opinion?

WSL:  Stalled: WIP to have WSL on aarch64 on 
https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/home:Guillaume_G:WSL 
todo: lkocman to write a blog post how
We have a WSL feature for 15 SP4 to have all SUSE/openSUSE images
installed from outside of the store "adopt the new behavior". Therefore
we wouldn't have to build the WSL-DistroLauncher image any more.

## Sarah - s390x

* Problems were with Tumbleweed releases because of kernel bug in
several packages (
cross-epiphany-gcc11-bootstrap and gcc): 
https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1188896
* Blocking packages have been killed. New Tumbleweed release should be
tested today.
* 7 VMs ordered after the offer to receive long-term (not only 120
days) VMs in the LinuxONE Community Cloud (pre-installed SLES), which
can be upgraded to openSUSE (there is an unofficial documentation for
this on wiki). 
 -> All VMs will be assigned to Sarah's account and she will forward
the long-term access to the team

*  bi-weekly training sessions tor topics as mainframes,
containerization, packaging:
     First session today: 
https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/zsystems@lists.o...
     * Next training session today about Technical view on the
mainframe architecture


## Doug

FTO - from August 2  - 14 (will be availalbe for sprint, Summit and
Nest. hopefully I have good internet ;-)
* openSUSE.Asia Summit (August 6th- 8th)

    * Gave team an overview on tools and capablities of venueless

* Fedora Nest/Flock booth complete

    * Collaboration panel discussion 

* Regular Meeting 

    * finetuned software.o.o. proposal - 
https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/weeklymeeting20210724

    * Date: Every Saturday from 17:00 to 19:00 UTC (per the survey) (7-
9pm CEST)

    Location: https://meet.opensuse.org/meeting

    Etherpad: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/weeklymeeting

    * Likely there will be another 11:00 UTC meeting on Saturdays. Will
send out email after I have the info.

    * will likely work on or discuss process for membership given
connect.o.o will deactive

* heroes plan to deactivate connect.o.o.

## Dirk
Not present

Regular things, nothing important to report

## Gerald
No update

## Wolfgang (Package Hub), Scott Bahling

A proposal to move all SLE forks to subpackages module/prouduct 
https://github.com/openSUSE/openSUSE-release-process/issu... This
would then fix our problem with submit requests not being forwarded to
the correct origin.

GAP was removed completly from openSUSE:Backports:SLE-15-SP4 (and
therefore from Leap 15.4)

Looking into migration scenarious from Leap to SLE that SUSE might
support
https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:System_upgrade - Covers also migration from
Leap X.Y to SLE X.Y

## Maintenance team (Marina or Marcus)
Marina: the rpm version update for 15.3 is ready to be released. We are
just waiting for SUMA team before releasing it. This release could
trigger a lot of rebuilds ;)
Ongoing interactions between maintenance and PackageHub teams. Quite
some good ideas on improvements.
Info: Marina FTO on weeks 33 and 34.

Q for maintenance team: 
https://code.opensuse.org/leap/features/issue/26 would this result into
increased load on maint team?
Marina: The first thing on my mind is a load for QA Team (Heiko). +Most
likely a one time setup for maint. team.

lkocman: Light touch on the topic to display status of SLES updates to
community. We can try to find the way to export the data.
MArcus: Generally could be possible, but we need to explicitly avoid
exposing embargoed security issues to the outside. Also review IP/NDA
updates where the schedule is not public.

Marcus: is there any update on the Leap 15.3 respins. lkocman:
Unfortunatelly no, it's currently blocked on me.

## Adrian - CtLG or openSUSE Step

Back from vacation

All covered in comments above.

Adrian: I had to fix issues in product builder so we won't end up in
situation where srpm is missing. We've had this issue by glibc (this
would otherwise violate GPL). This would be another reason to rebuild
ftp trees.

How do we reference to CODE 15. 15.3 was the result of our survey.