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FreeBSD 13.0 released

FreeBSD 13.0 released

Posted Apr 14, 2021 8:50 UTC (Wed) by mtu (guest, #144375)
Parent article: FreeBSD 13.0 released

I think the integration of OpenZFS 2.0 into FreeBSD is a Big Deal. It should make zfs fully interoperable between Linux and FreeBSD, which haven't had a well-supported 'common denominator' filesystem in ages (UFS2 support in Linux is lacking, as is EXT3/4 support in FreeBSD, all for relig^Wlicensing reasons, of course). It was so bad, people resorted to ExFAT or NTFS.

Also, OpenZFS now includes native encryption, so you can even share encrypted data between these systems. This used to be practically impossible (at least on the block device level), because Linux doesn't support FreeBSD's geli, and FreeBSD doesn't support Linux' LUKS. Now that encryption can be handled at zfs' filesystem level, that's no longer a concern. It doesn't give you the near-complete metadata protection of geli or LUKS, but it should be good for many applications (especially considering that zfs supports tape-archiving/network-sending encrypted datasets without unlocking them).


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FreeBSD 13.0 released

Posted Apr 16, 2021 23:32 UTC (Fri) by markrlondon (guest, #151689) [Link] (1 responses)

I agree that OpenZFS integration in FreeBSD will be very good for end users. Cross-OS compatibility is usually a good thing for end users.

But for FreeBSD I sadly suspect that it will lead to an increase in the migration of users from FreeBSD to Linux. We're already seeing this with projects such as pfSense (moving to Linux for their next generation TNSR) and FreeNAS/TrueNAS (moving to Linux for TrueNAS Scale). In both cases, they are not dropping FreeBSD but future, higher performance, development will be on Linux. At some point, common sense suggests that supporting two OS platforms will no longer make sense and they will have to choose one over the other. Linux seems like likely to be the winner.

And there's the thing. Linux has the benefit of the network effect, both in terms of users and in terms of developer time. As times goes on, it becomes harder and hard for FreeBSD to keep up. (Things must be more complicated still for the other BSDs).

Of course (other than Netgate for pfSense and iXsystems in the case of TrueNAS) there are several big name users of FreeBSD, who repackage FreeBSD and use it for their own purposes. One would hope that these (very!) big name commercial users of FreeBSD will contribute back to FreeBSD to keep it up to date. Perhaps they do, but even if they are contributing back, their contributions seems likely to focus on usage in environments that are limited to their hardware interests, whereas FreeBSD clearly needs (looking at the comments above and at many other comments in general about FreeBSD) investment in it as a general purpose OS to keep up with Linux.

To be clear, I think that OS diversity is a very, very important thing. But the network effect of end users, developers, and businesses who base their hardware/software offerings on other operating systems, taking together, seems to mean that Linux is winning at the expense of the BSDs (mainly FreeBSD).

How can this be countered? Even Linux distributions to that shun SystemD are having a harder and harder time. Sameness is trumping diversity and innovation. This isn't healthy.

FreeBSD 13.0 released

Posted Apr 17, 2021 2:05 UTC (Sat) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link]

Diversity is important when it's diverse. But FreeBSD is not that different from Linux, it's the same monolithic kernel design.

It then makes more sense to push all efforts behind one implementation rather than continue to (badly) reinvent the wheel.


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