US Supreme Court rules for Google over Oracle

Posted Apr 6, 2021 15:20 UTC (Tue) by Wol (subscriber, #4433)
In reply to: US Supreme Court rules for Google over Oracle by pebolle
Parent article: US Supreme Court rules for Google over Oracle

> And I'm sure there are (historic) societies that do not have one or more of the legal concepts we now take for granted.

Time Immemorial?

Which is a real thing. The definition varies, but it is English Law that pre-dates the concept of a "Jury of one's Peers" - peers is capitalised because it means a Lord of the Realm.

So basically, "time immemorial" is stuff that predates either Magna Carta, or the accession of Henry III, whichever date you choose as they're both roughly the same.

Cheers,
Wol

US Supreme Court rules for Google over Oracle

Posted Apr 6, 2021 16:47 UTC (Tue) by amacater (subscriber, #790) [Link]

Strictly, 6th July 1189 - the accession date of Richard I. It' s a cut-off date: claims for possession of land reference that date - anything earlier can't be overturned, effectively. [Legal history appreciated here :) ]

US Supreme Court rules for Google over Oracle

Posted Apr 28, 2021 15:50 UTC (Wed) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link] (1 responses)

> The definition varies, but it is English Law that pre-dates the concept of a "Jury of one's Peers" - peers is capitalised because it means a Lord of the Realm.

Where does *this* come from? Peers is capitalized because nouns were frequently (and irregularly) capitalized in written text back then. It's got nothing to do with lordship, and juries were never composed entirely of peers of the realm (who are called that because they are distinct from *other sorts* of peers).

US Supreme Court rules for Google over Oracle

Posted Apr 28, 2021 22:25 UTC (Wed) by Wol (subscriber, #4433) [Link]

The Magna Carta guaranteed the right to "a trial by a jury of ones peers". But it only guaranteed it to the nobility, the Peers.

Basically, it was a reigning in of the absolute powers of the King, and making him formally answerable to the Baronage. This is the birth of Parliament and the House of Lords, I guess... the King could no longer sling a Lord he'd fallen out with into the brig without at least the permission of the other Lords.

All part of the everlastng political struggle between those in power, and those who want to be in power.

Cheers,
Wol