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For a different view

Posted Jan 20, 2021 21:10 UTC (Wed) by Deleted user 129183 (guest, #129183)
In reply to: For a different view by Cyberax
Parent article: Banon: License changes to Elasticsearch and Kibana

> That's actually a pretty apt description, now that RedHat has killed CentOS.

They didn't kill it, they just changed its focus. And the licence terms of RHEL have not been touched in any way, so basically everyone with relevant experience can create Ye Olde CentOS Part Deux.


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Posted Jan 20, 2021 21:13 UTC (Wed) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link] (3 responses)

Let's call a spade a spade.

RedHat has killed CentOS as it existed: a free OS that in practice is guaranteed to be completely compatible with RedHat. And for pretty much the same reason: it was eating into their commercial subscription business.

> And the licence terms of RHEL have not been touched in any way, so basically everyone with relevant experience can create Ye Olde CentOS Part Deux.
Unless RedHat is planning to deploy more counter-measures. We'll see.

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Posted Jan 20, 2021 21:28 UTC (Wed) by pizza (subscriber, #46) [Link]

> Unless RedHat is planning to deploy more counter-measures. We'll see.

The only "counter-measures" RH has taken here is to stop paying folks to work on freely-provided RHEL rebuilds.

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Posted Jan 20, 2021 22:49 UTC (Wed) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link]

> And for pretty much the same reason: it was eating into their commercial subscription business.

I don't think this is the reason or atleast the only reason. Red Hat has stopped funding CentOS developers full time to work on replicating RHEL for free but the sources including the git repos for all the packages are still available and they even did the work in Fedora (which RHEL inherited) to make rebranding easier. With the open sourcing of the build system and management tools including Koji and all of the components behind Red Hat satellite, they aren't holding back on anything there. They don't have to do all this if the goal was to prevent rebuilds. For all the permissive licensed components, they aren't required to publish anything at all. They have gone well beyond their legal obligations.

The stated reasons of having CentOS as it exists now play the role of a more closer upstream that they can build out of seems to be the right value proposition for them. As usual, they botched the way they have announced it and explained it however. What would have been logical is for the RHEL subscription changes to come first, CentOS 8 Stream (and not CentOS 8) to be announced and explained clearly with the current intentions transparent so people can plan around it better.

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Posted Jan 21, 2021 9:35 UTC (Thu) by pbonzini (subscriber, #60935) [Link]

For now this is what Red Hat has deployed: free RHEL for small production workloads and development teams.


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