Jansson: On the Graying of GNOME

Posted Dec 16, 2020 18:14 UTC (Wed) by alspnost (guest, #2763)
In reply to: Jansson: On the Graying of GNOME by jazzy
Parent article: Jansson: On the Graying of GNOME

Do people really try to use phones for "daily work"? I'd rather use pen and paper, or a stone tablet, than trying do anything like "work" on a phone.

Jansson: On the Graying of GNOME

Posted Dec 16, 2020 18:38 UTC (Wed) by ttuttle (subscriber, #51118) [Link]

For me at least: Extended work? No. Brief chat and email messages to coordinate extended work? Absolutely.

Jansson: On the Graying of GNOME

Posted Dec 16, 2020 23:21 UTC (Wed) by NYKevin (subscriber, #129325) [Link] (11 responses)

Quite a few people cannot afford laptops, and actually do use their smartphones for everything.

Jansson: On the Graying of GNOME

Posted Dec 17, 2020 13:09 UTC (Thu) by LtWorf (subscriber, #124958) [Link] (10 responses)

Introduce me to 1 person that actually works a full time job sitting on a desk with a phone in their hand…

Jansson: On the Graying of GNOME

Posted Dec 17, 2020 13:32 UTC (Thu) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link] (3 responses)

> Introduce me to 1 person that actually works a full time job sitting on a desk with a phone in their hand…

Lots of sales people do that including a category of people who travel frequently for work aka road warriors and they make heavy user of their phones. Is it really that hard to imagine that some percentage of people rely on their phones or an occasional tablet lot more than their computers?

Jansson: On the Graying of GNOME

Posted Dec 18, 2020 6:51 UTC (Fri) by LtWorf (subscriber, #124958) [Link] (2 responses)

That is shifting the goal.

It has to be someone who can't afford to own a computer for their work, but do work with a different device out of poverty.

Jansson: On the Graying of GNOME

Posted Dec 19, 2020 17:38 UTC (Sat) by gnu_lorien (subscriber, #44036) [Link] (1 responses)

Lots of poor people have to choose their nice, expensive things carefully. In the modern world, if one could only afford either a computer or a phone the choice is almost always going to be phone.

In my personal experience there's also a huge demographic of users that do everything on their phones: Kids. Things that don't work on their phones basically don't exist to them technologically. If we're talking about not having a new generation of programmers this is a critical demographic and use case to consider.

Jansson: On the Graying of GNOME

Posted Aug 5, 2021 16:03 UTC (Thu) by LtWorf (subscriber, #124958) [Link]

Kids use the computer as soon as they want to play a decent game or have to write something for school. Because nobody finds touch screens more convenient for writing.

Jansson: On the Graying of GNOME

Posted Dec 21, 2020 17:25 UTC (Mon) by NYKevin (subscriber, #129325) [Link] (4 responses)

I find it interesting that you immediately jump to white collar workers. Most white collar workers probably can afford a laptop, although it might be of poor quality. But there are plenty of people who do not work white collar jobs, and many of them have significantly lower incomes.

Jansson: On the Graying of GNOME

Posted Dec 21, 2020 19:52 UTC (Mon) by zdzichu (subscriber, #17118) [Link] (2 responses)

We are talking about job; it doesn't matter if one can afford laptop, as it needs to be provided by employer.

Jansson: On the Graying of GNOME

Posted Dec 22, 2020 0:23 UTC (Tue) by Wol (subscriber, #4433) [Link] (1 responses)

And if you're self-employed ... ?

Cheers,
Wol

Jansson: On the Graying of GNOME

Posted Dec 22, 2020 6:27 UTC (Tue) by zdzichu (subscriber, #17118) [Link]

Deciding to be self-employed when you can't afford the tools? Madness.
Anyway please answer original question in your context: what kind of self-employment it is when you sit whole day at a desk with a phone only?

Jansson: On the Graying of GNOME

Posted Dec 22, 2020 0:03 UTC (Tue) by LtWorf (subscriber, #124958) [Link]

> I find it interesting that you immediately jump to white collar workers

Could that be related to the fact that those are the ones that do use a computer for work, as we were discussing on this thread?

No of course it must be because I'm extremely prejudiced and closed minded -_-'

Jansson: On the Graying of GNOME

Posted Dec 28, 2020 17:05 UTC (Mon) by MarkVandenBorre (subscriber, #26071) [Link]

Doesn't qualify entirely, but my car mechanic uses only his smartphone for his administration. His garage doesn't have an office space at all.

He orders his spare parts from the thing. He emails customers and suppliers from the thing. It seems to work for him, better than a laptop would.