Loaded terms in free software
Loaded terms in free software
Posted Jun 22, 2020 1:47 UTC (Mon) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946)In reply to: Loaded terms in free software by mjg59
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The hypocrisy isn't that. The hypocrisy is not acknowledging the violent colonization that resulted in the spread of the language in the first place
Even without this history, wanting control of a language is a futile effort. Even my own native tongue is spoken in several different countries and each have their own unique distinct dialects. I have zero say in that. Also my language has morphed into a completely different language just in my neighbouring state over a few centuries and again, I have zero say in that. Going around claiming that the way I speak or write it is the way that language is the only way the entire world should do is just ignoring the basic fact that language spreads and evolves in interesting ways and always will.
Even within a country if enough people misuse a word, the dictionaries will just acknowledge it as a common pattern (ex: using literally to mean figuratively). Fact of life.
Posted Jun 22, 2020 15:34 UTC (Mon)
by Wol (subscriber, #4433)
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> The hypocrisy isn't that. The hypocrisy is not acknowledging the violent colonization that resulted in the spread of the language in the first place
WHAT violent colonisation? For the record, America is SLAVishly following the "UK Imperial Howto" (yes I used that word), and we didn't invent it, we merely copied the Romans. Oh - and it's widely recognised that as Imperial Expansions go, the British one was remarkably NON-violent.
Also, for the record, me personally part of my family fled Germany, another part were probably victims to The Clearances, etc etc. For heavens sake, it's all history! I have a Saxon name, Norman persecution is STILL visible if you know how to look ...
All *I* said was "why can't the Americans have some national pride", and everybody starts dragging British Imperialism into it. For **** sake stop acting like a teenager and grow up! America claims to be a Free Country and a Champion of Democracy - as the rest of the world see them they are a Police State (as in the Police ignore the law because they EXPECT to get away with it), and they most definitely are not a modern democracy seeing as large slabs of the citizenry are routinely denied the opportunity to vote!
Take PRIDE in being a Free Country - demand that the Police are held accountable for their crimes!
And stop exporting your propaganda about how nice you are when you quite blatantly aren't! LIVE UP TO YOUR OWN CONSTITUTION!
I don't think I ought to drag IP (mis)behaviour into this ... but America are widely seen as the bully saying "do as I say, not as I do". Fix that, and respect for America will grow. But until America gains some self-respect of their own, I doubt they'll be able to fix it!
Cheers,
Posted Jun 22, 2020 15:49 UTC (Mon)
by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946)
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All of it. English language was introduced in many countries via that British empire which inevitably included violent intrusions and massacres of the native population including deaths of many sub cultures and local languages
Loaded terms in free software
Take PRIDE in being a modern democracy - demand that the right to vote includes the right to be given the OPPORTUNITY to vote!
Wol
Loaded terms in free software