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Making Emacs popular again

Making Emacs popular again

Posted May 10, 2020 5:24 UTC (Sun) by gdt (subscriber, #6284)
Parent article: Making Emacs popular again

The default environment is too sparse and the cost of discovering basic features is too high.

To put that another way, my ~/.emacs, which does nothing extraordinary, is over 500 lines. Most of which is activating packages or making settings which should be on out-of-the-box. The amount of boilerplate programming needed to get liftoff is only exceeded by Cisco IOS router configurations.

The basic keycodes not matching common practice is an issue, and one which needs resolving out-of-the-box, not with some magic setting. There's nothing wrong with the current Emacs keycodes, they just lost mindshare. Many user's can't even press all the Emacs key-codes, as their operating system has other ideas about those modifier keys.

There's nothing wrong with Emacs LISP *except for* when ~/.emacs starts to be a LISP program rather than simple statements which can be set via the GUI.

The huge kludge to make Emacs work on GUIs needs careful surgery because its shortcomings hurt every time GUIs change to accommodate new hardware -- such as HiDPI. Libreoffice is a great model of how to do such surgery on a huge codebase. Part of the issue here is that package owners are seen as users who can't be disrupted, rather than as projects who can be asked to make changes.


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Making Emacs popular again

Posted May 10, 2020 9:38 UTC (Sun) by tpo (subscriber, #25713) [Link]

> The default environment is too sparse and the cost of discovering basic features is too high.
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> The basic keycodes not matching common practice is an issue

Wow. Exactly this for me.

I've tried Spacemacs because I think their goal is to solve exactly that. But then I got completely lost in "stuff works differently in Spacemacs and some howtos don't seem to apply" and gave up once more.

Making Emacs popular again

Posted May 12, 2020 6:45 UTC (Tue) by epa (subscriber, #39769) [Link]

I was pleasantly surprised to use a Mac and find that Ctrl-A for beginning of line worked. Are there any others?


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