Handling attacks on a community
Handling attacks on a community
Posted Mar 15, 2020 1:54 UTC (Sun) by zenaan (guest, #3778)In reply to: Handling attacks on a community by Cyberax
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> Just like you crying here, begging for CoCs to disappear? What a broflake.
Not what I said, but meh...
So is it fair to assume then that you agree with all the resignations (RMS), knee-bending (Torvalds), and turmoil (openSUSE and many others)?
It is of course your right to agree with such treatment of various founders, as we have witnessed a fair bit of in recent times. Good lessons for future founders (to enshrine their "broflake" power CoCs before the snowflakes have a chance to usurp power and damage the founders).
Long term, I believe this is a functional parting of the ways between humans with different preferred ways of being in this world.
The CoC for those of robust temperament, is a different CoC to those of snowflake temperament.
Snowflakes are entitled to their CoC, "broflakes" and those who prefer more freedom in their communication environment, are entitled to their CoC - although I have yet to see a broflake CoC in writing :)
In the mean time we continue in this time of turmoil where unspoken expectations of some, in some cases many, have begun to be put first into CoCs and then into force, and this clash of expectations and turmoil is made public. Over, and over, again.
I have a sneaking suspicion that the "broflakes", those of robust emotional temperament, though evidently a minority, are inherently pioneers, willing and able to blaze new trails which few others see or would dare, until the land is cleared and first settlements built.
Most are settlers or homies.
'Tis the way of things.
Posted Mar 15, 2020 4:25 UTC (Sun)
by dskoll (subscriber, #1630)
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See you later, then...
Posted Mar 15, 2020 5:58 UTC (Sun)
by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523)
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Posted Mar 15, 2020 11:25 UTC (Sun)
by zenaan (guest, #3778)
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> Absolutely. People should learn to behave like decent human beings, and not like entitled brats.
In other words:
Cyberax: "Richard Matthew Stallman, founder of the Free Software Foundation (FSF) and staunch catalyst, visionary, upholder and all around grandfather for the entire FLOSS/Libre movement for ~30 years now, behaved or spoke, in my ever so high opinion, "like an entitled brat," and so therefore (I say) it is a great thing that he was "resigned" from his FSF."
So ... speaking of "entitled brats" ...
["Mummy told me I am fully entitled to be free from all confronting words by anyone forever." - You know, that's not a bad definition of "snowflake", not bad at all ... we shall be making use of that :D]
Posted Mar 15, 2020 15:33 UTC (Sun)
by corbet (editor, #1)
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Thank you.
Posted Mar 16, 2020 1:12 UTC (Mon)
by mebrown (subscriber, #7960)
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Posted Mar 16, 2020 11:13 UTC (Mon)
by beagnach (guest, #32987)
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Thanks
Seems to be a rather higher incidence of trolling in the last week or two... what's with that?
Posted Mar 19, 2020 3:25 UTC (Thu)
by flussence (guest, #85566)
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Posted Mar 30, 2020 4:54 UTC (Mon)
by elvis_ (guest, #63935)
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Posted Mar 16, 2020 4:00 UTC (Mon)
by pabs (subscriber, #43278)
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Posted Mar 16, 2020 5:57 UTC (Mon)
by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523)
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But it breaks down in large projects when a broflake decides that somebody is oppressing them.
Posted Mar 16, 2020 13:41 UTC (Mon)
by corbet (editor, #1)
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Posted Mar 17, 2020 2:09 UTC (Tue)
by pabs (subscriber, #43278)
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Posted Mar 17, 2020 11:12 UTC (Tue)
by jond (subscriber, #37669)
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Posted Mar 19, 2020 3:28 UTC (Thu)
by flussence (guest, #85566)
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Posted Mar 19, 2020 20:50 UTC (Thu)
by andrejp (guest, #47396)
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On topic though, having admittedly read only a little bit of the presented material, I do anyway find the so called "offender" articulate, intelligent, capable and disposed to reason and arguments. People don't go to such extreme lengths and cause so much noise for nothing, much less out of some childish malice. Usually it's because some deeply held and fundamental value has been profoundly violated. To me it doesn't seem like a bit of ego was bruised. It seems more like a crusade.
Having also read some of the related material outlined (such as the mentioned blog post https://www.preining.info/blog/2018/09/sharp-did-it-again/), I can't say I disagree with his position either. Much of the "group" response comes across as passive aggressive at best, glossing over the issues presented and ignoring the arguments, and after failing at that, attempting to silence and ban the dissenters presenting uncomfortable opinions. Which is exactly the argument that the so called "offender" seems to present. And which, at least to me, seems like it extracted exactly the kind of response the group got from this individual. :)
Posted Mar 20, 2020 8:29 UTC (Fri)
by mpr22 (subscriber, #60784)
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My leisure reading includes the search results returned by canlii.ca for the single search term "vexatious", which yields a fascinating selection of material (which is occasionally quite unpleasant to read; those of a sensitive disposition might wish to avoid reading the cases where individual parties are referred to by initials instead of a surname).
Observing this fine gentleman reminds me of the former schoolteacher who, having been unsuccessful in pursuing his labour dispute in the province where his former employer is situated and he was living at the time of the matter under dispute, and then in the Federal courts, has attempted to relitigate the matter not only in the province he now inhabits, but in most of the others, many or even all of which he has never inhabited (and, obviously, his former employer has no presence in).
Posted Mar 21, 2020 0:11 UTC (Sat)
by flussence (guest, #85566)
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You have a lot more faith left in humanity than I do. The joe-jobbing was where it crossed the line for me.
Handling attacks on a community
Handling attacks on a community
Absolutely. People should learn to behave like decent human beings, and not like entitled brats.
Handling attacks on a community
Please make use of it elsewhere; we really do not need more trolling here.
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I hate to have to say this but ... name-calling and such aren't really better just because $WE do it, for whatever value of $WE. Let's try to avoid that, please?
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Handling attacks on a community
Handling attacks on a community