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E-vote advocates still don't get it...

E-vote advocates still don't get it...

Posted Jan 30, 2020 16:41 UTC (Thu) by dskoll (subscriber, #1630)
In reply to: E-vote advocates still don't get it... by dvdeug
Parent article: Cryptography and elections

Umm, no. One reason our system is more trusted is that the counting procedure is more trustworthy. (It's not the only reason, but it's a reason.)


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E-vote advocates still don't get it...

Posted Jan 30, 2020 18:33 UTC (Thu) by dvdeug (guest, #10998) [Link] (3 responses)

Is it? The printed paper trail of Nevada's voting systems is more trustworthy than putting pencil to paper. I can look on the printed paper roll and see that my vote for Clinton was recorded and there's zero chance that someone is going to be debating whether my pencil mark was clear enough. If it wasn't recorded properly, I can hit the cancel button, it'd void that ballot out, and start over again. I don't know what further precautions are taken, but I doubt that most Canadians know theirs, and I know that most Canadians have no idea how voting is done here in Nevada, so the differences in counting procedure probably have little to no effect.

Oh, and https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/the-irony-of-the-first-na... , second paragraph:

"But the same cannot be said of the First Nations’ vote. There is good reason why First Nations have traditionally resisted voting in Canadian elections. Regardless of who First Nations vote for in any federal election, their voice makes no actual difference."

I bet the main reasons your system is more trusted is because (a) there have been Americans scare-mongering about the voting system, up to the president claiming that millions of illegal immigrants voted in the last presidential election, and (b) the black community in the US has more political power than the First Nations in Canada.

E-vote advocates still don't get it...

Posted Jan 30, 2020 21:45 UTC (Thu) by dskoll (subscriber, #1630) [Link] (2 responses)

It's objectively the case that our system is more trusted than in the US, by any measure including voter turnout.

The rest of your points are either irrelevant or strawmen.

E-vote advocates still don't get it...

Posted Jan 31, 2020 0:27 UTC (Fri) by dvdeug (guest, #10998) [Link] (1 responses)

How is it relevant that your system is more trusted than in the US? Neither of them use e-voting, and there's absolutely no evidence the differences in trust have anything to do with how the voting is carried out.

E-vote advocates still don't get it...

Posted Feb 4, 2020 21:28 UTC (Tue) by dskoll (subscriber, #1630) [Link]

You wrote: "The printed paper trail of Nevada's voting systems is more trustworthy than putting pencil to paper."

And then you wrote: "How is it relevant that your system is more trusted than in the US?"

Do please make up your mind as to what you consider relevant.


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