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Debian reconsiders init-system diversity

Debian reconsiders init-system diversity

Posted Nov 22, 2019 10:55 UTC (Fri) by Wol (subscriber, #4433)
In reply to: Debian reconsiders init-system diversity by smurf
Parent article: Debian reconsiders init-system diversity

Or the horror that was bind, which was pointed out in the early days of systemd ...

It required the network service to be running when it shut down, else it would get stuck in an infinite loop. If your system happened to shut down networking before bind ... if it was in a remote co-lo you were SOL.

Oh and I think this took *years*, *if ever* to get fixed in the official repo.

Cheers,
Wol


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Debian reconsiders init-system diversity

Posted Nov 24, 2019 20:59 UTC (Sun) by flussence (guest, #85566) [Link] (3 responses)

BIND is very... 1980s software. It's ugly, hard to use right, prone to falling over in a slight breeze, and has better replacements, yet everyone clings to it for some reason.

Debian reconsiders init-system diversity

Posted Nov 27, 2019 17:01 UTC (Wed) by anselm (subscriber, #2796) [Link]

BIND 9 actually borders on the usable. In addition, while there are loads of purported “BIND replacements” they often implement only that part of the functionality of a DNS server that their authors like or agree with. If one desires a DNS server which actually does everything that the RFCs say a DNS server should do, the number of feasible substitutes for BIND is suddenly not all that large anymore.

Which is not to say that there aren't BIND replacements that are useful in many contexts (I'm a happy user of PowerDNS and dnsmasq, for example) – it's just that the “BIND replacements” tend to come with their own sets of issues. Hence, caveat emptor.

Debian reconsiders init-system diversity

Posted Nov 28, 2019 11:13 UTC (Thu) by jezuch (subscriber, #52988) [Link] (1 responses)

The same reason people cling to sysvinit, I guess? But we haven't yet had the obligatory "you'll pry bind from my cold dead hands" flamewar yet?

Debian reconsiders init-system diversity

Posted Nov 29, 2019 4:04 UTC (Fri) by flussence (guest, #85566) [Link]

That kind of got overshadowed by the systemd thing going on at the time. It was called BIND10.


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