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Fedora 31 is here

Fedora 31 is here

Posted Nov 1, 2019 14:12 UTC (Fri) by pebolle (guest, #35204)
In reply to: Fedora 31 is here by pizza
Parent article: Fedora 31 is here

> there are a few folks who care enough to volunteer their time and energy to make them happen.

And then, I'd guess, use Fedora's build infrastructure to build their Spins, use Fedora's storage to host them, use Fedora's bandwidth to serve them, etc.

And some community manager evaluates their status, writes reports for the various boards that govern Fedora. Those boards discuss these Spins and make decisions. Someone has to mention the Spins while explaining to Red Hat where all the money was spent on, etc.

And I wouldn't be surprised if having Spins complicates the release of the non-Spin products in various, small ways.

It might not be a large amount of resources but I can't see how it could be zero.

(And all this ignores hard to quantify stuff like brand-dilution.)


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Fedora 31 is here

Posted Nov 1, 2019 15:13 UTC (Fri) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link] (2 responses)

> And then, I'd guess, use Fedora's build infrastructure to build their Spins, use Fedora's storage to host them, use Fedora's bandwidth to serve them, etc.

Some of it is Red Hat willing to fund it but a lot of storage, bandwidth etc is sponsored by other vendors or volunteer mirrors

> (And all this ignores hard to quantify stuff like brand-dilution.)

This is part of why there is editions, spins and labs that denote different things with varying levels of support. If some group wants to do a LXDE variant and another group wants to do a LXQT variant etc the project leadership can either choose to tell one group no, you can't do that or let the variants exist and let people who want to use them, form a community around it. Is it somewhat wasteful of resources? Sure but it is the price the project is willing to pay to help foster a community of volunteers. If it a project that was run entirely by paid staff, the management would be quite different

Fedora 31 is here

Posted Nov 5, 2019 10:41 UTC (Tue) by Wol (subscriber, #4433) [Link] (1 responses)

> Is it somewhat wasteful of resources? Sure but it is the price the project is willing to pay to help foster a community of volunteers.

As someone else pointed out ages ago, volunteers aren't your typical definition of resource. If you don't support them they will simply go elsewhere - you can't put them on a different task.

So here it's a simple case of "is what they are doing of value to Fedora? Is any investment in them worth the money?" And as they are bringing users into the Fedora ecosystem, the answer presumably is "yes".

(And don't forget - users are "volunteers" too - if you don't support eg LXQT, you will have users who, like me, won't touch Gnome with a bargepole, who will then not go near Fedora because it's Gnome-based. Actually, I've never used Fedora, I tried Red Hat before it was RHEL and didn't like it, but the point remains that people will avoid it if they don't like the defaults.)

Cheers,
Wol

Fedora 31 is here

Posted Nov 5, 2019 12:35 UTC (Tue) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link]

> As someone else pointed out ages ago, volunteers aren't your typical definition of resource.

To be clear, I was referring to the bandwidth, storage etc as a resource. Not volunteers.


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