| From: |
| Alvaro Herrera <alvherre-AT-2ndquadrant.com> |
| To: |
| Tom Lane <tgl-AT-sss.pgh.pa.us> |
| Subject: |
| Re: PostgreSQL pollutes the file system |
| Date: |
| Wed, 27 Mar 2019 15:03:47 -0300 |
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| <20190327180347.GA31173@alvherre.pgsql> |
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| Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra-AT-2ndquadrant.com>, "Fred .Flintstone" <eldmannen-AT-gmail.com>, Mark Kirkwood <mark.kirkwood-AT-catalyst.net.nz>, Michael Paquier <michael-AT-paquier.xyz>, Andreas Karlsson <andreas-AT-proxel.se>, Chris Travers <chris.travers-AT-adjust.com>, Tatsuo Ishii <ishii-AT-sraoss.co.jp>, Euler Taveira <euler-AT-timbira.com.br>, Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123-AT-gmail.com>, Postgres hackers <pgsql-hackers-AT-lists.postgresql.org> |
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On 2019-Mar-27, Tom Lane wrote:
> Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com> writes:
> > I suppose that if you're a Postgres developer, you naturally expect that
> > "createdb" creates a Postgres DB. What if you use multiple database
> > systems, and then only occasionally have to do DBA tasks? I find this
> > POV that createdb doesn't need renaming a bit self-centered.
>
> Nobody is defending the existing names as being something we'd pick
> if we were picking them today. The question is whether changing them
> is worth the pain. (And, one more time, may I point out that most
> of the pain will be borne by people not on this mailing list, hence
> unable to vote here.) I don't think there is any reasonable argument
> that said pain will be justified for any of them except maybe createuser
> and dropuser.
The implicit argument here is that existing users are a larger
population than future users. I, for one, don't believe that. I think
taking no action is a disservice to future users. Also, that modifying
the code will be utterly painful and that less administrative code will be
written in the future than has already been written.
We *could* run a poll on twitter/slack/website to get a feeling on a
wider population. That would still reach mostly existing Postgres
users, but at least it would be much more diverse than this group.
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Álvaro Herrera https://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
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