Bison 3.3 released

Posted Jan 28, 2019 15:29 UTC (Mon) by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389)
In reply to: Bison 3.3 released by tshow
Parent article: Bison 3.3 released

I do pretty much all my actual development on Linux. I find it much easier to work with Windows and macOS by having a minimally viable editor available and git on the target machine. I'll test small fixes on the target machine, but bigger development is done in my main env and pushed around using git.

> Although if anyone knows how to do iOS dev on a Linux box, I'm all ears...

I almost had a cross-compilation setup done in 2008 or so by extracting an SDK and a using a cross compiling GCC. Ended up abandoning since I ended up just not caring about macOS at some point. Swift works on Linux now (and I suspect you could get a cross-compile capable setup pretty easily since it is LLVM-based), so that may be one way to do at least compile testing. Making the final package is probably always going to be on a macOS instance though since, AFAIK, the signing tools are macOS-specific. I assume Clang compiles Obj-C, so that may work as well.

Bison 3.3 released

Posted Jan 29, 2019 10:34 UTC (Tue) by ledow (guest, #11753) [Link] (1 responses)

I followed the same path trying to develop for MacOS and gave up after a couple of working prototypes.

It just wasn't worth the effort trying to maintain a completely separate path that, without running the entire compilation on an up-to-date MacOS itself, wouldn't do even the simplest of things.

And I'm not prepared to pay Apple hardware prices just to run my own code.

I would have to say that, even if I made a living developing software, I would not even try to support Apple devices purely because of the developer interfaces. I am actually surprised that any developer does bother, to be honest. They can't be doing so willingly, surely (I get the "But we MUST have an iPad app" kind of forced development).

Pretty much the only way I could ever get anything to work reliably was to push XCode tools into Eclipse (which "just works" on Windows and Linux of several flavours) and run it natively on MacOS. Then, literally every time MacOS updated, compilation on un-updated machines would fail or apps couldn't be signed because things weren't up to date, which involved an OS update, which - after a while - required a hardware update.

And XCode doesn't work on any other platform, so you couldn't even go that way and just teach yourself that and move it to Windows/Linux.

Apple went out of their way to tell me that they don't want me using their platform. I took the hint, before I'd ever parted with a penny on anything they offered.

Bison 3.3 released

Posted Jan 29, 2019 21:57 UTC (Tue) by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389) [Link]

> I am actually surprised that any developer does bother, to be honest. They can't be doing so willingly, surely (I get the "But we MUST have an iPad app" kind of forced development).

There's apparently lots of money to be had. People do lots of crazy things to get more of it.

But, I understand the sentiment.