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Dr. Dobb's Tcl-URL!

From:  John Seal <tcl-url-AT-phaseit.net>
To:  "Dr. Dobb's Tcl-URL distribution" :;
Subject:  Dr. Dobb's Tcl-URL! - weekly Tcl news and links (Mar 22)
Date:  Mon, 22 Mar 2004 17:54:42 -0500

QOTW: "It will be interesting to see what happens when we decide 'wish'
shouldn't be shipped either (for which there is already no reason to do
so on unix)." -- Jeff Hobbs

"It's been proven a million times over that tcl doesn't have this sort
of inconsistency (command working dramatically different interactively
than non-interactively) so there must be some other explanation."
-- Bryan Oakley


POTW: Expect for Windows 1.0 by ActiveState.  "Expect for Windows brings
the power of Expect to the Windows platform, providing familiar tools for
cross-platform system administration and test automation."
     http://www.ActiveState.com/Expect


     The secret to character-buffered socket communications is
     to set -buffering none and  use [read] instead of [gets]:
         http://groups.google.com/groups?th=66561f0cf07c70be

     A simple widget layout question sparks an interesting [grid]
     lesson, including behavior changes due to TIPs:
         http://groups.google.com/groups?th=5a2abe2a86a494fb

     Why does [catch] catch an error-free [return]?
         http://groups.google.com/groups?th=afce2201eabb7c62

     When people discover [canvas] it seems like their first
     question is always "How can I plot points?":
         http://groups.google.com/groups?th=6f514711ed243af6

     It's the end of an era... MacOS Classic support has been
     moved to the CVS attic:
         http://groups.google.com/groups?th=8bef10ba9a23d630

     Remember that the first argument to [string match] uses
     glob-matching syntax:
         http://groups.google.com/groups?th=387848f277882e7f

     Your app uses unicode, but certain users don't see the right
     glyphs.  How do you figure out what font they're missing?
         http://groups.google.com/groups?th=1ec71e6f974a4105

     Converting a Java timestamp to a Tcl one involves getting
     the number and dividing by 1000.  How hard can it be?
         http://groups.google.com/groups?th=2adb87220b89eaf1

Thanks to Arjen Markus for his summary of Wiki activity:
  Improvements to the chat room, ancient source code and higher mathematics
  in this week's Wiki digest:
  
  Chatting and gaming:
  - Tkabber is a pure Tcl implementation of Jabber - you can find it 
    via <http://wiki.tcl.tk/11080>
  
  - A game client for MUSH/MUD/MOO/MU* games. Again to be found via 
    the Wiki: <http://wiki.tcl.tk/11099>
  
  A colour chooser:
  - Here is an implementation of the X11 xcolors program, as so very
    often, in pure Tcl: <http://wiki.tcl.tk/11139>
  
  Maths, anybody? 
  - You may have wondered about TIP 174 ... well, here are two pages
    that are related to the very topic of doing maths in Tcl:
    <http://wiki.tcl.tk/11128> discusses what goes on in the darker
    corners of everyday arithmetics.
  
  - The finer aspects of logic and functional programming discussed 
    at <http://wiki.tcl.tk/11141>
  
  - Your chronicler humbly refers to pages he initiated:
    <http://wiki.tcl.tk/11087> discusses some questions that troubled
    him with respect to numerical analysis ... And the somewhat ad hoc 
    solutions at <http://wiki.tcl.tk/11146> for instance.
  
  
  Sources of sources 
  - Distributions of Tcl in binary or source form: <http://wiki.tcl.tk/1560>
  
  - Really old versions of Tcl can be found here: <http://wiki.tcl.tk/3106>
  

Everything Tcl-related you want is probably one or two clicks away in these
pages:
    The "Welcome to comp.lang.tcl" message by Andreas Kupries
        http://www.purl.org/net/tcl-welcome

    The Tcl Developer Site is Tcl's "home base".
	http://www.tcl.tk

    Larry Virden maintains a comp.lang.tcl FAQ launcher
        http://www.purl.org/NET/Tcl-FAQ/

    The Tcl Developer Xchange is a highly organized resource center
    of documents and software with provisions for individuals to
    maintain references to their own software:
        http://www.tcl.tk/resource/
    The TDX sponsor, ActiveState, also keeps info to convince your
    boss Tcl is a good thing
        http://www.tcl.tk/scripting/

    The Tcl'ers Wiki is a huge, dynamic, collaboratively edited repository
    of documentation, examples, tutorials and pontifications on all things 
    Tcl.
        http://wiki.tcl.tk/0
    For the ideal overview of the topics about Tcl most likely to
    interest a newcomer, see "Arts and Crafts ..."
        http://wiki.tcl.tk/969

    ActiveState maintains binaries distribution and development tools
        http://www.activestate.com/Tcl
    along with a Cookbook of Tcl recipes
        http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Tcl

    Cameron Laird tracks several Tcl/Tk references of interest
        http://phaseit.net/claird/comp.lang.tcl/

    Cetus Links maintains a Tcl/Tk page with verified links
        http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_tcl_tk.html

    Google Groups archives comp.lang.tcl.announce posts
        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tcl_announce/

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