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The kernel's code of conduct, one week later

The kernel's code of conduct, one week later

Posted Sep 26, 2018 19:45 UTC (Wed) by Curan (subscriber, #66186)
Parent article: The kernel's code of conduct, one week later

I'm still not understanding why this particular CoC was chosen and not, say, the Debian CoC. That would have been far less contentious IMO. Maybe there's still a chance to get such a CoC adopted instead.


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The kernel's code of conduct, one week later

Posted Sep 26, 2018 20:03 UTC (Wed) by halla (subscriber, #14185) [Link] (2 responses)

Do you mean you don't understand the second paragraph of this article, or do you mean that you don't understand how someone could make a choice with those things in mind?

The kernel's code of conduct, one week later

Posted Sep 27, 2018 15:49 UTC (Thu) by Curan (subscriber, #66186) [Link] (1 responses)

The latter, though not in an as absolute way, as you make it sound here. If some, even important, subsystem does something, than that's one thing, yet still pretty contained and doesn't affect the project at large. For the overarching project I would have wished for a CoC which is short, general, focuses on the few intentions it is supposed to ensure and is as free as it can be from political "baggage".

NB: If I wanted to, I could feel offended by your comment, since one possible way to read it, is, that you're suggesting a severe lack of reading comprehension on my part. Now, if I apply the Debian CoC this problem goes away since I will then assume good faith and assume you might not have worded this perfectly. Under the CoC adopted by the kernel I could call this an "insulting comment".

I will apply the Debian CoC and say, that my original comment could have been more explicit in this regard. Even though the latter way of reading my comment might be the more obvious one, if one assumes, that I actually read the article I commented on (ie. if one assumes good faith).

The kernel's code of conduct, one week later

Posted Oct 4, 2018 7:20 UTC (Thu) by cpitrat (subscriber, #116459) [Link]

The reason why your first comment was ambiguous is that it didn't explain why you still had doubt (i.e why one should prefer the Debian CoC to the DRM one). Your second comment fixes that.

Said crudely, your first comment looked like a troll whereas your second looks like an argument.

As for why, I'd be tempted to say the NIH syndrome probably played a bit: Linus (and other people involved in the decision) are more familiar with the DRM folks than with the Debian's one. They had direct feedback on this CoC, not on the others. Not all decisions are necessarily rational ...


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