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DNS over HTTPS in Firefox

DNS over HTTPS in Firefox

Posted Jun 4, 2018 16:28 UTC (Mon) by jmanig (guest, #120108)
In reply to: DNS over HTTPS in Firefox by flussence
Parent article: DNS over HTTPS in Firefox

> that's just what the official owner of 1.1.1.1 has set its reverse DNS to.

Actually, 1.1.1.1 seems to be Cloudflare's new DNS over HTTPS server, or at least if the https://1.1.1.1 website is to be believed. I'll admit I just looked quickly and did not dig into whether this is legit or not.


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DNS over HTTPS in Firefox

Posted Jun 4, 2018 17:40 UTC (Mon) by tialaramex (subscriber, #21167) [Link] (1 responses)

Yes, but the point is that when you use software to examine ARP packets on your local network, that software isn't magically divining the true identity of the sender of those packets, if the packets have IP address 1.1.1.1 the software just does rDNS and says 1dot1dot1dot1.cloudflare-dns.com because that's what the entry for 1.1.1.1 in the reverse DNS says.

Now, is it technically possible that a Cloudflare DNS server is on your LAN? Sure (maybe "your LAN" is in a datacentre or you work for Cloudflare). Is it likely? Nope, lots of idiots hijack 1.1.1.1 because they figure they'll pick a real value later, or they assume it's unused because it wasn't used back when they wrote their software, or just because they're very lazy and unimaginative.

And yes, it's legitimate. The 1.1.1.0/24 network (and several others in that neighbourhood) are so poisoned as to be useless for most purposes because of the hijacking I mentioned. However this particular address is memorable and thus valuable to Cloudflare. They struck a deal with, IIRC APNIC (the RIR for the Asia Pacific region) who were unable to issue this address to an LIR because it's poisoned, Cloudflare's DoS-resistant network resources would be used to monitor the subnet for APNIC and in exchange APNIC would let them advertise anycast routing into this /24 (effectively just for 1.1.1.1 itself) to run DNS services around the world.

DNS over HTTPS in Firefox

Posted Jun 4, 2018 19:37 UTC (Mon) by jmanig (guest, #120108) [Link]

OK, I understand your comment a little better now. Thank you for the clarification.


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