openSUSE Leap 15 released
With a brand new look developed by the community, openSUSE Leap 15 brings plenty of community packages built on top of a core from SUSE Linux Enterprise (SLE) 15 sources, with the two major releases being built in parallel from the beginning for the first time. Leap 15 shares a common core with SLE 15, which is due for release in the coming months. The first release of Leap was version 42.1, and it was based on the first Service Pack (SP1) of SLE 12. Three years later SUSE’s enterprise version and openSUSE’s community version are now aligned at 15 with a fresh rebase." Leap 15 will receive maintenance and security updates for at least 3 years.
Posted May 26, 2018 8:34 UTC (Sat)
by Sylos (guest, #109852)
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Posted May 26, 2018 21:34 UTC (Sat)
by bib (guest, #114736)
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They have reduced the size of the install iso by 15%, 3.6GB, seriously, people will install a lot which is not on that.
No 8GB iso, never mind bluray's.
Still make it nearly impossible to install from an image on a local hd.
I do not want bleeding edge, but neither do I want something so old, that it comes with a layer of dust and cobwebs.
Opensuse are now playing it far too safe.
Posted May 27, 2018 13:17 UTC (Sun)
by lynxlynxlynx (guest, #90121)
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Posted May 27, 2018 19:06 UTC (Sun)
by niner (subscriber, #26151)
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I use that on all my systems and we also use it on our servers and for all VMs.
Posted May 28, 2018 21:20 UTC (Mon)
by bib (guest, #114736)
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As for the kernels, pretty much the same thing. I only want to use those that have been released into the update repositories. That means there has been some testing other that it builds and boots.
Some of us want something between bleeding edge and something that the dust only gets occasionally wiped away.
Seriously... kernel 4.12.14.... It's 8 months old...
Posted May 29, 2018 7:39 UTC (Tue)
by k8to (guest, #15413)
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Or is it specific features that happened recently?
I'm just curious because it's really rare that I care about Linux features that are less than a year or so old. Typically it's a matter of introspection and investigation tools to use in production, so that they're on customer boxes. On my own boxes I can always run whatever kernel I want, but I rarely want something special, and usually something pretty default, as I have other areas to spend my time.
Posted May 29, 2018 16:48 UTC (Tue)
by StefanBr (guest, #110916)
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SUSE employs several kernel developers, so I expect the Leap 15 kernel, which is shared with SLE 15, to have the same quality as e.g. 4.14.x. It contains hundreds of backports from newer kernels, so it is in no way old.
Testing and certification of enterprise ready kernels takes time, so it started with the release of 4.12.x. Sharing the kernel between SLE 15 and Leap 15 means you get a well tested and well maintained kernel, which is exactly what you demand. 4.12.x vs 4.14.y is just some sticker, it has no relevance regarding quality and being up-to-date here.
Leap 15 will be maintained for at least 3 years, so the kernel will be almost 4 years old by then, at least following your reasoning. Actually, it won't be, as it will receive bugfixes the whole period.
Posted May 29, 2018 16:58 UTC (Tue)
by StefanBr (guest, #110916)
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Everything else, which some users want, can be installed from the online repositories, even during the installation by enabling the online repository. If you want or have to do an offline installation, you can just copy the required packages to a USB stick and add the stick as repository.
Can you pinpoint any package which is required by a relevant (by numbers) part of the openSUSE userbase, but missing from the ISO?
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