Who controls glibc?

Posted May 8, 2018 2:48 UTC (Tue) by jdulaney (subscriber, #83672)
In reply to: Who controls glibc? by geoffbeier
Parent article: Who controls glibc?

I'm sorry, I cannot go into detail, just that I know the people involved and what happened.

Who controls glibc?

Posted May 8, 2018 3:21 UTC (Tue) by Kalenx (subscriber, #120295) [Link] (2 responses)

Then your comment is utterly useless.

I'm not even pro-Stallman here, I find many of his "jokes" offensive and I definitely do not condone his general attitude. But this kind of public statement (yes, a comment here is a public statement, albeit not of great impact for most of them), unsourced, unproved, without any details, and out of context, has zero usefulness. It does however have downsides: it brings no information while messing with the discussion on the topic at hand.

If someone has something to say, then by all means he/she should go for it. I'm not asking for formal/judicial proof here, not even for this person to get out of his/her anonymity, just something better than "I've heard that at an unknown time and place, an unknown female allegedly being an FSG employee got harrassed by another unkown person, took unknown actions which were ultimately met by RMS firing her after unknown discussions. So yeah, no one should be surprised by RMS not wanting to remove an abortion joke".

Who controls glibc?

Posted May 8, 2018 4:06 UTC (Tue) by jdulaney (subscriber, #83672) [Link] (1 responses)

It's not unknown, I know the people involved, and was peripherally involved myself.

Who controls glibc?

Posted May 8, 2018 6:12 UTC (Tue) by Kalenx (subscriber, #120295) [Link]

> It's not unknown, I know the people involved

Sigh...

Look, I really want harrassed people to be able to report their harrasser, especially in tech. I really want people preventing or retaliating against harrassed people coming out to be punished, no matter high or famous they are. I genuinely do.

But read your comments as if you were an outsider. Imagine they were against another person if it helps (not even forcibly in tech). You begin by:

> Is anyone surprised?

as if the following of your comment was common knowledge. Then you state a very serious charge:

> RMS is cool with the FSF firing female employees when they report being harassed.

And the only fact/proof/testimony/conversation/mail/blog/irc log/report to back your argument when someone ask is "I know the people involved". Well, I could have guessed that, it's kind of hard to report someone without knowing them...

Again, I'm not saying that RMS did no wrong here (I just don't know). If he did, this has to be denounced. But by setting the bar so low for such denunciation, anyone can basically report half of the planet the same way.

Who controls glibc?

Posted May 8, 2018 4:13 UTC (Tue) by geoffbeier (guest, #123670) [Link]

I'm sorry for what happened to the people you know. I wish you could share more details so that the rest of us could consider them when deciding how we want to interact with the stewards of this project.