server prohibition? net neutrality?

Posted Feb 2, 2018 8:38 UTC (Fri) by Garak (guest, #99377)
In reply to: server prohibition? net neutrality? by Cyberax
Parent article: ActivityPub is now a W3C recommended standard

You're telling that TOS of ISPs is impeding innovation, yet it's demonstrably not true in the actual reality.

I admit that you lack the power to demonstrate the untrueness you claim. And unfortunately with the current state of the politics, I don't see my argument denting the reality of the establishment's preferred status quo in the near term future. In general arguments of the form "if the world was significantly different in this specific way, then I believe such and such would result" are definitionally unable to be demonstrated true.

Downloading copyrighted movies through BitTorrent is a federal crime. People have been fined tens of thousands of dollars for it and theoretically can be imprisoned. It's also against TOS of pretty much all ISPs.

Yet millions of people are still doing it. Why?

If that is a rhetorical question, why don't you answer it yourself if you think it is relavent? Clearly when millions of people do anything, it is often for a wide spectrum of differing reasons within differing contexts. Driving a vehicle three miles per hour faster than the speedlimit is a crime, that unlike the federal crime of non-fair-use downloading of copyrighted movies through bittorrent, has a scientifically measurable bodycount, as well as maiming-count, yet millions of people are still doing it. Why? Yes, that was a rhetorical question- obviously when millions of people do anything, it is often for a wide spectrum of differing reasons within differing complex contexts. No doubt some are doing so within the legal framework of exigent circumstances. While others no doubt do it because they have no respect for the concept of the Law. Many others do it because of personal analysis involving an understanding of selective enforcement of the law, as well as knowledge of social understanding (even the people who obey the law still note what percentage of people don't obey the law, particularly on metropolis beltways).

Getting back to downloading copyrighted movies with bittorrent- No doubt some are engaging in fair-use scenarios. No doubt others have no respect for the law. No doubt some others have no respect for the subset of law around copyright. No doubt many others are basically addicts of popular culture. Perhaps some of these latter entertain the idea that satisfying their addiction here inherently does not carry the same kind of risks that in aggregate lead the sugar and salt and other refined ingestable addiction dynamics to have measurable bodycounts.