The NumWorks graphing calculator
The NumWorks graphing calculator
Posted Sep 28, 2017 20:10 UTC (Thu) by Lionel_Debroux (subscriber, #30014)Parent article: The NumWorks graphing calculator
However, the pristine NumWorks N100 can't be that calculator: 1 MB of Flash, i.e. only half of what e.g. the '1998 TI-89 provides (but accessible at a much faster rate), simply isn't enough to hold a full-featured CAS engine in addition to the other features expected from a graphing calculator, and 256 KB of RAM isn't much either.
Bernard Parisse made an experimental port of his Giac to the NumWorks simulator, which implements no binary size limit on x86/x86_64; according to him, the ARM binary would be much larger than the N100's Flash memory. The discussion in French is at https://ti-pla.net/t20445 (disclaimer: I'm a founding member and still staff member of TI-Planet, but there's no English-speaking reference about NumWorks+Giac at the time of this writing, I explicitly asked him in another thread).
Posted Sep 29, 2017 0:17 UTC (Fri)
by daney (guest, #24551)
[Link] (2 responses)
CAS or no CAS, unless students are permitted to use the device, I don't think it will be commercially successful.
Posted Sep 29, 2017 0:23 UTC (Fri)
by daney (guest, #24551)
[Link] (1 responses)
I wonder though, with the ability to load custom firmware, if it can be certifiable for these tests, as you could in theory add functions to gain an advantage over others who would have only standard firmware.
Posted Sep 29, 2017 14:10 UTC (Fri)
by cpitrat (subscriber, #116459)
[Link]
Posted Sep 29, 2017 1:16 UTC (Fri)
by pizza (subscriber, #46)
[Link] (3 responses)
They also support external DRAM and Flash, but that could require a bit of SW rework (ie "modules" paged into RAM) and probably hurt performance a bit. Not to mention cost more.
Anyway. I _really_ want to see this MathWorks endeavour succeed.
Posted Sep 30, 2017 12:20 UTC (Sat)
by joib (subscriber, #8541)
[Link] (2 responses)
Posted Oct 1, 2017 8:11 UTC (Sun)
by Lionel_Debroux (subscriber, #30014)
[Link] (1 responses)
Posted Oct 6, 2017 12:02 UTC (Fri)
by xav (guest, #18536)
[Link]
Posted Sep 29, 2017 13:53 UTC (Fri)
by epithumia (subscriber, #23370)
[Link] (1 responses)
It's true that TI is just exploitative, especially when they price the various editions of TI84 which are explicitly required by certain textbooks at nearly double the price of their highest-end NSpire calculators. (Though even then they charge extra for an NSpire with a CAS.) To displace them from that market (at least the local market with which I am familiar) you would have to provide something amazing at an even more amazing price. Doing simply "a whole lot better" at a slightly lower price just isn't enough, it seems, because TI keeps getting business.
HP gives a free emulator and smartphone application which exactly duplicate the Prime so students can just use their phone most of the time and only use the physical calculator in the classroom setting. They have a complete classroom connectivity solution (though it is unfortunately overpriced). It's simply not enough. You have to both cut costs and push hard against TI in innovative ways. Get these things out to schools as kits. Bundle them with 3D printers (on loan if necessary to keep the costs reasonable) so kids can actually make their calculators from parts. Get them involved and then let them keep the result, so that the learn the value of open design. And if you're going to try to do traditional sales, at least drop the cost by a third if not in half.
As an aside, I do wonder if Bernard Parisse is somehow involved in this effort. My understanding is that he is the author of GIAC and has done the CAS systems for HP calculators since the HP49.
Posted Sep 29, 2017 15:12 UTC (Fri)
by Lionel_Debroux (subscriber, #30014)
[Link]
He made an unofficial mod of the computer version of the NumWorks software, which features Giac integration; at the same time, he started putting some Python compatibility syntactic sugar into Giac. You can see a couple screenshots of NumWorks+Giac in the forum topic where I posted a link to :)
The NumWorks graphing calculator
The NumWorks graphing calculator
The NumWorks graphing calculator
The NumWorks graphing calculator
The NumWorks graphing calculator
The NumWorks graphing calculator
The NumWorks graphing calculator
The NumWorks graphing calculator
The NumWorks graphing calculator
Apart from the HP Prime running an official mod of Giac, the TI-Nspire series has enjoyed his unofficial port of Giac since 2014, named Khicas (good pun, definitely intended), whose binaries are upgraded on a regular basis to follow Giac enhancements.
