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Re: call for agenda items -- council meeting 2017-09-10

From:  Rich Freeman <rich0-AT-gentoo.org>
To:  gentoo-project <gentoo-project-AT-lists.gentoo.org>
Subject:  Re: call for agenda items -- council meeting 2017-09-10
Date:  Mon, 4 Sep 2017 14:55:39 -0400
Message-ID:  <CAGfcS_nR66H2r3dkzac+HjBSzWrqW=oCY=J_5jTK4VxV1bryHA@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Michał Górny <mgorny@gentoo.org> wrote:
> W dniu pon, 04.09.2017 o godzinie 14∶19 -0400, użytkownik Rich Freeman
> napisał:
>
>> If marking the profile as dev causes some breakage for users, then
>> those users should seriously consider contributing to the arch team,
>> because they're probably the only people around who might potentially
>> do so.  If not, they get to keep the pieces.
>
> ...or dumping Gentoo for a distribution that doesn't dump huge breakage
> on users in week's time. Guess which one is more likely to happen.
>

We can of course send out a news item in advance and warn of possible
issues if they stick with stable keywords.  That is no effectively
different than just removing the stable keywords - either breaks if
the user takes no action.

However, if there is another distro out there with better hppa/sparc
support then it is actually a good thing if those users dump Gentoo
and switch to the other distro.  These are extremely niche arches at
this point, so having 10 people on the planet on one distro is going
to work better than having them all on different distros.

However, you can't really expect the ubuntu experience if you're
running one of these architectures.

-- 
Rich




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Re: call for agenda items -- council meeting 2017-09-10

Posted Sep 8, 2017 11:51 UTC (Fri) by ovitters (guest, #27950) [Link]

I like the clear response by Rich. Theoretical "it should just work" vs the (real world) knowledge of the required investment.

Re: call for agenda items -- council meeting 2017-09-10

Posted Sep 9, 2017 9:24 UTC (Sat) by glaubitz (subscriber, #96452) [Link]

Those users can switch to Debian:

> https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/

hppa and sparc64 is pretty good in Debian and there are multiple people working on these architectures. As you can see, we have support for alpha, m68k, powerpcspe (PowerPC e500v2), sh4 (SuperH) and x32 as well.

Come to Debian :).


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