Re: When do we update the homepage to a modern design? (was Re: Moving away from (unsupportable) FusionForge on Alioth)

From:		Sean Whitton <spwhitton-AT-spwhitton.name>
To:		debian-devel-AT-lists.debian.org
Subject:		Re: When do we update the homepage to a modern design? (was Re: Moving away from (unsupportable) FusionForge on Alioth)
Date:		Mon, 15 May 2017 16:48:59 -0700
Message-ID:		<20170515234859.4alj2bwghvoxlyet@iris.silentflame.com>

Hello Zlatan,

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 09:45:46PM +0200, Zlatan Todoric wrote:
> Then lets forget about getting newcomers (fresh blood) to Debian as
> you're so close minded to modern/new things - the same way they probably
> close the window when they see '90 style with a lot of text that
> actually says nothing. We are strange with our talks last few debconfs -
> we want new people but we don't want to break our precious habits nor do
> we want to give freedom to others to express themselves if they don't
> fit into our circle of thinking which must be the best one.

I'm a relative newcomer, and I'm less than 30 years old, and one thing
that attracted me to Debian was the website's not being like lxde.org :)

More generally, while I agree that we should be flexible in the pursuit
of new contributors and users, we mustn't lose our identity in that
process.

> Well Debian on its page doesn't mention it is Linux based or has Linux
> kernel or at all word Linux.

We have Linux, HURD and the FreeBSD kernel, though.  I suspect the
thought was Debian hopes its practices, values and community will
outlive any specific kernel, just like they could outlive apt/dpkg.

-- 
Sean Whitton

Re: When do we update the homepage to a modern design? (was Re: Moving away from (unsupportable) FusionForge on Alioth)

Posted May 18, 2017 2:54 UTC (Thu) by amacater (subscriber, #790) [Link]

So far, they haven't outlived dpkg - though that's gone through a couple of major changes - or apt. Debian has probably outlived (most) of it's derivatives, though since the lovely graphic on Linux families hasn't been updated in a few years, it's hard to tell. Ubuntu server may outlive all other Ubuntu variants, I suspect, as the default desktop returns to GNOME with 18.04 - maintaining derivatives is _hard_

[No particular interest in this except for the disclaimer that I gave the final name which was adopted as apt: not speaking for Debian Project as a whole - but REALLY happy to be running Debian something like 22 years on from when I started]

kernel-agnostic ?

Posted May 25, 2017 22:41 UTC (Thu) by Zolko (guest, #99166) [Link] (1 responses)

they have "Linux, HURD and the FreeBSD kernel" and they all work with systemd ?

kernel-agnostic ?

Posted May 25, 2017 23:48 UTC (Thu) by anselm (subscriber, #2796) [Link]

Debian supports several init systems. On Linux, the default init system is systemd (but System-V init still works for those people who prefer it to systemd); other platforms that systemd does not support default to System-V init instead.