GNU Artanis 0.2 released

Posted May 10, 2017 21:31 UTC (Wed) by zyga (subscriber, #81533)
Parent article: GNU Artanis 0.2 released

There are several popular webapp frameworks around, using far more popular languages. There are also several common lisp webapp frameworks around. Is anyone familiar with Artanis that could answer why the developers chose to implement a new framework rather than contributing to an existing one? Is it about the license? Is it some particular feature that is unique?

GNU Artanis 0.2 released

Posted May 10, 2017 23:16 UTC (Wed) by ssl (guest, #98177) [Link] (6 responses)

The story of this software is that's written in Guile, which is the GNU's preferred scripting language.

GNU Artanis 0.2 released

Posted May 11, 2017 12:11 UTC (Thu) by gowen (guest, #23914) [Link] (5 responses)

Five years too late to make any real impact, and written in a Lisp-like language that almost no-one working in that domain cares about.

Honetly, it's the perfect GNU project.

GNU Artanis 0.2 released

Posted May 11, 2017 16:21 UTC (Thu) by adirat (subscriber, #86623) [Link]

Some people write Lisp/Scheme/Rust/whatever for its own sake or for fun, there's not necessarily a need to get adoption across a "working domain of professional people".

GNU Artanis 0.2 released

Posted May 11, 2017 16:25 UTC (Thu) by paulj (subscriber, #341) [Link] (3 responses)

If they enjoy working on some free software (regardless of what you think of their choices), and it doesn't harm you, why be disparaging? Live and let live.

GNU Artanis 0.2 released

Posted May 11, 2017 17:23 UTC (Thu) by HelloWorld (guest, #56129) [Link] (2 responses)

It's telling that the responses to adirat's posting don't even attempt to come up with rational reasons for why one would want to use this.

GNU Artanis 0.2 released

Posted May 11, 2017 19:11 UTC (Thu) by bandrami (guest, #94229) [Link]

Well, that part's easy: Guile's FFI is (for me at least) parsecs better than any other scripting language's. If I needed to glue together a bunch of library code to make a web application it's what I would turn to.

GNU Artanis 0.2 released

Posted May 12, 2017 10:12 UTC (Fri) by oldtomas (guest, #72579) [Link]

> It's telling that the responses to adirat's posting [...]

Guessing from the content I assume you mean zyga's posting.

Well, I'm not the target audience for Artanis, since it aims for a vertically integrated web framework (from database to client-side scripting). I detest client side scripting myself and won't thus impose that on my guests.

But I've been following its development, and Nala is doing a beautiful job. Artanis is well architected and Scheme/Guile is *fun* (yeah, eye, beholder, those things).

There was a time where the whole world was being rewritten to have the prefix "py": perhaps it was much busywork, but thanks to a fresh perspective, it brought about a couple of interesting things; Same with go and (especially) with Rust. I don't particularly care (about either), but I keep a curious and friendly regard on them. Especially Rust's inspiration in linear types... how is that working out in practice? All of that.

Just saying "meh, just another foo done in another programming language"... c'm on. We'd still be doing FORTRAN these days. It'd be boring and sad.

GNU Artanis 0.2 released

Posted May 11, 2017 6:03 UTC (Thu) by ceplm (subscriber, #41334) [Link] (2 responses)

(not ("Scheme" "Common LISP" =))

If you want to make nerd jokes…

Posted May 11, 2017 17:26 UTC (Thu) by HelloWorld (guest, #56129) [Link] (1 responses)

at least do it right:
(not (eq? "Scheme" "Common LISP"))

If you want to make nerd jokes…

Posted May 11, 2017 22:36 UTC (Thu) by ceplm (subscriber, #41334) [Link]

Oh well, at least it shows how horrible I am with Scheme :(