Turmoil for Drupal

Posted May 6, 2017 1:06 UTC (Sat) by mjg59 (subscriber, #23239)
In reply to: Turmoil for Drupal by dlang
Parent article: Turmoil for Drupal

Would it be wrong for a Jewish community group to refuse to let Hitler join, even if he promised to be good?

Turmoil for Drupal

Posted May 6, 2017 6:40 UTC (Sat) by dlang (guest, #313) [Link] (3 responses)

that's not the question here, the question here is if the guy who has been extremely helpful to the community for years is going to be thrown out because of things he did outside.

As to your question of a Jewish community refusing to allow Hitler to join. Prior to 1920 or so, they would have no more reason to prevent him from joining than they would have had to refuse any Gentile. By 1945, he had shown his bad behavior to that community directly, so it's not a case of ignoring outside behavior and only taking into account the actions within that community.

Turmoil for Drupal

Posted May 6, 2017 7:52 UTC (Sat) by mjg59 (subscriber, #23239) [Link] (2 responses)

> that's not the question here

The question that you raised was whether a community should reject someone based on their behaviour outside the community This hypothetical is absolutely related to that question.

> By 1945, he had shown his bad behavior to that community directly,

So it's reasonable to exclude someone who treats, say, women badly from a community that either includes or aspires to include women?

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Posted May 7, 2017 16:15 UTC (Sun) by pizza (subscriber, #46) [Link]

If he had demonstrated actual bad behaviour towards women, sure.

Meanwhile, we're all still waiting for even a modicum of evidence to back up that claim. Heck, even the "accused" here is publicly asking for said evidence -- or even a specific allegation of bad behaviour.

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Posted Jul 15, 2017 17:47 UTC (Sat) by paulj (subscriber, #341) [Link]

If it is reasonable, the community needs to be sure the views are indeed beyond the pale to the vast majority of the community. You can not achieve that by allowing a very small section of the community to rule in secret.

Transparency is critical here.