The rise of copyright trolls

Posted May 3, 2017 10:32 UTC (Wed) by JanC_ (guest, #34940)
In reply to: The rise of copyright trolls by armijn
Parent article: The rise of copyright trolls

Please give proof that EU packaging regulations forbid you to include legally required documentation.

The rise of copyright trolls

Posted May 3, 2017 11:09 UTC (Wed) by armijn (subscriber, #3653) [Link]

You (and many others) are totally missing the point that I am making. As said, it was an example given to me by a someone indicating a *potential* future problem and how regulations totally unrelated to software could interfere with a *strict* interpretation of the GPL. The real problem that this panel tried to address is that most projects out there have not made it clear what "compliance" means in their book, allowing trolls to exploit ambiguities and that is something that should be addressed. We need a social norm around compliance.

Now, if you'll excuse me, a few more urgent and frivolous cases just landed on my desk...

The rise of copyright trolls

Posted May 3, 2017 11:31 UTC (Wed) by armijn (subscriber, #3653) [Link] (5 responses)

I suggest reading annex II.1 at http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:...

The rise of copyright trolls

Posted May 3, 2017 11:47 UTC (Wed) by aggelos (subscriber, #41752) [Link] (1 responses)

Please present your argument; not the text of the directive. If there is an issue here, it needs to be further publicized, but that's not at all obvious from the text.

The rise of copyright trolls

Posted May 5, 2017 9:03 UTC (Fri) by aggelos (subscriber, #41752) [Link]

Please present your argument; not the text of the directive. If there is an issue here, it needs to be further publicized, but that's not at all obvious from the text.

Hey Armijn. Any chance you could do this? I realize this is a long discussion and wouldn't want this part (which I think is central to some of the points) to fall through the cracks.

The rise of copyright trolls

Posted May 3, 2017 15:30 UTC (Wed) by ballombe (subscriber, #9523) [Link]

I suggest you buy anything at IKEA and come back (do not read all the notices first, we would wait too long).

The rise of copyright trolls

Posted May 8, 2017 9:21 UTC (Mon) by aggelos (subscriber, #41752) [Link]

(Once more, replying to Armijn directly in case he has missed the other messages)

Hey Armijn. Any chance you could explain how you think the requirements of the GPL might conflict with the EU directive you referenced, given the text of Annex II.1 and the preceding context?

The rise of copyright trolls

Posted May 27, 2017 20:42 UTC (Sat) by JanC_ (guest, #34940) [Link]

That says you should limit packaging to what is necessary, and that whenever possible packaging should be reusable or recyclable. Including the GPL is legally necessary when you distribute software that is released under the GPL, so there is no problem.

Also, Article 7, 2nd point, explicitly says that protection of authenticity, technical characteristics, property rights, etc. must be taken into account.