Catanzaro: GNOME 3.22 core apps

Posted Sep 22, 2016 9:07 UTC (Thu) by gowen (guest, #23914)
In reply to: Catanzaro: GNOME 3.22 core apps by mcatanzaro
Parent article: Catanzaro: GNOME 3.22 core apps

Did you ask a random person whether they'd rather have a VM Manager (core) or something to play MP3s / interface with their iPod/Phone Music App (no functionality in core)?

Catanzaro: GNOME 3.22 core apps

Posted Sep 22, 2016 12:27 UTC (Thu) by mcatanzaro (subscriber, #93033) [Link] (7 responses)

I can guess the answer. Help improving GNOME Music to handle such things would be much appreciated!

(Although I've heard this may not be possible with the newest iPhones, but I'm not sure if that's right or not.)

Catanzaro: GNOME 3.22 core apps

Posted Sep 23, 2016 9:40 UTC (Fri) by patrick_g (subscriber, #44470) [Link] (6 responses)

Why improve GNOME Music when there's already a perfectly acceptable GNOME modern audio player?

https://gnumdk.github.io/lollypop-web/

Catanzaro: GNOME 3.22 core apps

Posted Sep 23, 2016 13:48 UTC (Fri) by mcatanzaro (subscriber, #93033) [Link] (1 responses)

It looks really good! My TL;DR answer is: "maybe, could be, with conditions."

I don't know why the Lollypop developers decided to make a third-party app instead of working with GNOME, but I don't think they ever told us about it, so it was never even considered. I heard of it once before on Google+, but I think most GNOME folks don't even know it exists.

To become a core app it would need to be hosted on git.gnome.org (we can't ship stuff from random places outside our control!), make tarball releases on GNOME infrastructure, follow the GNOME release cycle, and present itself as Music in its desktop and appdata files. Maybe the Lollypop developers would be OK with all that, maybe not, I don't know. But it would also require discussion between the Lollypop developers and the Music developers and designers to agree on this path forward, since the GNOME community has been working on Music for years now. I have no clue how that discussion would go. I would be open-minded about it myself if proposed, because I see Lollypop's development activity is much higher. The right place for this discussion would be desktop-devel-list@gnome.org and the proposal should come from a Lollypop developer.

Catanzaro: GNOME 3.22 core apps

Posted Sep 25, 2016 18:56 UTC (Sun) by lollypop (guest, #111373) [Link]

Hello, here lollypop dev.

I started working on Lollypop for two reason:
- have an advanced version of Gnome Music
- havin fun coding with GTK (I was a KDE dev in my past life)

Today, Lollypop is a quite cool software but I do not want it to be by default in GNOME for many reasons:
- Do not want to slow down dev following GNOME release
- Too many options in Lollypop to be a default player, Gnome Music is simple and is cool as a default player. Advanced users know how to install another application.

And Gnome devs know about Lollypop:
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/commits-list/2015-January...

This commit is based on Lollypop code ;)

lollypop

Posted Sep 23, 2016 22:36 UTC (Fri) by corbet (editor, #1) [Link] (3 responses)

So I was curious about this...went ahead and installed it on my Tumbleweed system. It put up a notification saying that it was updating its idea of my music and went unresponsive, except when I told it to play an Internet radio station and it crashed. On restart, I left it to its own devices; after a couple of hours it had driven the system into an unrecoverable thrashing fit.

I do believe I'll uninstall this thing.

lollypop

Posted Sep 24, 2016 0:12 UTC (Sat) by mcatanzaro (subscriber, #93033) [Link]

Thanks for the warning!

lollypop

Posted Sep 25, 2016 18:44 UTC (Sun) by lollypop (guest, #111373) [Link] (1 responses)

Just send an issue on github instead of **** on the web

lollypop

Posted Sep 25, 2016 23:12 UTC (Sun) by flussence (guest, #85566) [Link]

Wow... that's one way to make people remember your app forever.